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Bob welcome to the 5 00:00:24,859 --> 00:00:20,760 skeptic zone the podcast from Australia 6 00:00:34,459 --> 00:00:24,869 for science and reason yuria hosts 7 00:00:37,040 --> 00:00:34,469 Richard Saunders and Stefan cycle hello 8 00:00:39,200 --> 00:00:37,050 Richard where's Devon it's lovely to see 9 00:00:40,850 --> 00:00:39,210 you after all these weeks and months and 10 00:00:42,709 --> 00:00:40,860 years haven't seen you for ages it's 11 00:00:44,240 --> 00:00:42,719 been at least weeks and months of years 12 00:00:45,680 --> 00:00:44,250 it hasn't really don't know what planet 13 00:00:47,990 --> 00:00:45,690 you're on it's nice to be back here at 14 00:00:49,700 --> 00:00:48,000 serious headquarters oh yes so these are 15 00:00:52,459 --> 00:00:49,710 they even kidding a bit of a disembodied 16 00:00:53,869 --> 00:00:52,469 Maynard sensation going on here I'm good 17 00:00:55,580 --> 00:00:53,879 I'm hearing may nights voice in the 18 00:00:58,970 --> 00:00:55,590 background and it may not sitting right 19 00:01:02,270 --> 00:00:58,980 in front of us Here I am they're back 20 00:01:04,039 --> 00:01:02,280 again oh look at it's all happening here 21 00:01:07,940 --> 00:01:04,049 I've been a real recording studio doing 22 00:01:10,250 --> 00:01:07,950 real things and now i'm doing this in an 23 00:01:12,969 --> 00:01:10,260 unreal recording studio yeah and that's 24 00:01:17,390 --> 00:01:12,979 right arts main artist visiting serious 25 00:01:20,840 --> 00:01:17,400 media conglomerate esse mobile reach out 26 00:01:22,760 --> 00:01:20,850 in global home office to do some 27 00:01:24,710 --> 00:01:22,770 voiceover work and we're taking the 28 00:01:26,390 --> 00:01:24,720 opportunity to do the introduction to 29 00:01:29,960 --> 00:01:26,400 the skeptic zone which is episode number 30 00:01:31,960 --> 00:01:29,970 318 for the 23rd of November it's nearly 31 00:01:34,880 --> 00:01:31,970 December which means it's nearly January 32 00:01:37,010 --> 00:01:34,890 318 I think the last one intro I did was 33 00:01:39,050 --> 00:01:37,020 show 300 so what the hell's been going 34 00:01:40,580 --> 00:01:39,060 over 18 weeks I don't know we came 35 00:01:43,910 --> 00:01:40,590 around here that you just weren't blade 36 00:01:46,310 --> 00:01:43,920 three module haha i kept hear the 37 00:01:49,039 --> 00:01:46,320 doorbell go but I'll see I was paranoid 38 00:01:51,469 --> 00:01:49,049 you party yeah I went to a psychic and 39 00:01:52,969 --> 00:01:51,479 they sit down open the door well that'll 40 00:01:54,319 --> 00:01:52,979 do it I mean you're not going to have a 41 00:01:55,940 --> 00:01:54,329 bad experience if you don't open the 42 00:01:59,109 --> 00:01:55,950 door yeah that's right unless it's the 43 00:02:01,850 --> 00:01:59,119 guy with the lottery we need tickets 44 00:02:05,240 --> 00:02:01,860 we're from our lottery agents and you've 45 00:02:07,789 --> 00:02:05,250 won uh I actually I won t know last 46 00:02:09,949 --> 00:02:07,799 night well I'm keno which is eight for 47 00:02:12,199 --> 00:02:09,959 those that are overseas it's a it's like 48 00:02:14,240 --> 00:02:12,209 you go to the local club and you picking 49 00:02:17,240 --> 00:02:14,250 numbers yeah it's like a lottery that 50 00:02:21,940 --> 00:02:17,250 runs every two minutes and yeah I 125 51 00:02:24,619 --> 00:02:21,950 bucks yeah I spent 50 bucks on tickets 52 00:02:27,320 --> 00:02:24,629 but I felt like a winner it all makes it 53 00:02:28,940 --> 00:02:27,330 is not for our listeners some big news 54 00:02:30,530 --> 00:02:28,950 coming out by later on in the show I'm 55 00:02:34,040 --> 00:02:30,540 going to be chatting to her rants again 56 00:02:35,240 --> 00:02:34,050 who is uh and here in the committee from 57 00:02:37,190 --> 00:02:35,250 destroying skeptics have been putting 58 00:02:39,650 --> 00:02:37,200 together the big convention oh yes only 59 00:02:41,930 --> 00:02:39,660 a week away he was just here about a few 60 00:02:43,820 --> 00:02:41,940 minutes ago he was indeed and the big 61 00:02:44,240 --> 00:02:43,830 news for our listeners of course is much 62 00:02:46,190 --> 00:02:44,250 too 63 00:02:47,770 --> 00:02:46,200 epic zone crew will be at the convention 64 00:02:50,540 --> 00:02:47,780 so you can come up and meet Stefan me 65 00:02:52,280 --> 00:02:50,550 maynard jl the best to dr. reaching a 66 00:02:53,660 --> 00:02:52,290 run will all be there and you can answer 67 00:02:55,580 --> 00:02:53,670 questions is I'm going to be talking to 68 00:02:56,690 --> 00:02:55,590 as many people as possible so don't be 69 00:02:58,430 --> 00:02:56,700 scared to come up and start a 70 00:03:00,350 --> 00:02:58,440 conversation in fact you bring your 71 00:03:02,540 --> 00:03:00,360 agenda to me and we'll do something with 72 00:03:04,280 --> 00:03:02,550 it that sounds good to me nothing like 73 00:03:08,750 --> 00:03:04,290 it and yet don't don't hide your agenda 74 00:03:10,370 --> 00:03:08,760 no no never hide your agenda so that's 75 00:03:12,170 --> 00:03:10,380 coming up that's very exciting one more 76 00:03:13,940 --> 00:03:12,180 week to the big Australians national 77 00:03:15,650 --> 00:03:13,950 convention but we have a bit of a bumper 78 00:03:17,770 --> 00:03:15,660 episode this week's definitely not you 79 00:03:20,420 --> 00:03:17,780 certainly do in fact it's a bits 80 00:03:22,370 --> 00:03:20,430 speaking of may not speaking of spooky 81 00:03:24,979 --> 00:03:22,380 action this is spooky action not in a 82 00:03:26,660 --> 00:03:24,989 distance you and I tonight will be going 83 00:03:29,180 --> 00:03:26,670 on a ghost tour and I'm really quite 84 00:03:31,550 --> 00:03:29,190 nervous about this I'm quite concerned I 85 00:03:33,710 --> 00:03:31,560 am a suggestive all and nervous person 86 00:03:34,850 --> 00:03:33,720 I'm not looking forward I'm just doing 87 00:03:36,260 --> 00:03:34,860 to this I'm just doing this because you 88 00:03:38,090 --> 00:03:36,270 want me to do it basically I don't 89 00:03:40,790 --> 00:03:38,100 really want to do it and I'm scared I'm 90 00:03:42,680 --> 00:03:40,800 really scared I've me up I'm someone who 91 00:03:45,620 --> 00:03:42,690 spends a lot of time on their own in the 92 00:03:49,789 --> 00:03:45,630 dark so yes exactly believe in him you 93 00:03:51,520 --> 00:03:49,799 go that's Karen Lee Elena don't be 94 00:03:54,560 --> 00:03:51,530 scared don't be scared as I as I 95 00:03:56,930 --> 00:03:54,570 frequently tell you ghosts a scan of me 96 00:03:58,759 --> 00:03:56,940 so with me and toe and our friend 97 00:04:01,759 --> 00:03:58,769 Alethea ghost is going to be scared of 98 00:04:04,039 --> 00:04:01,769 her too mmm okay she's pretty feisty 99 00:04:05,870 --> 00:04:04,049 serious very feisty anyway that's coming 100 00:04:07,400 --> 00:04:05,880 up we haven't done it yet by the time 101 00:04:09,320 --> 00:04:07,410 the show comes out and it's all mixed in 102 00:04:13,160 --> 00:04:09,330 the future which will be the past god 103 00:04:15,199 --> 00:04:13,170 for all this so many times main Aden and 104 00:04:18,380 --> 00:04:15,209 I think goes to 0 that's coming up that 105 00:04:20,060 --> 00:04:18,390 go to that one and then after that we've 106 00:04:22,219 --> 00:04:20,070 got a week in science of course from our 107 00:04:25,420 --> 00:04:22,229 I ate us the Royal Institution of 108 00:04:28,909 --> 00:04:25,430 Australia and then we going to look at 109 00:04:31,510 --> 00:04:28,919 predictions mystical predictions from 110 00:04:33,680 --> 00:04:31,520 Australia's top psychics for the year 111 00:04:35,120 --> 00:04:33,690 2400 is because we're coming towards the 112 00:04:37,280 --> 00:04:35,130 tail end they haven't got long to go to 113 00:04:39,050 --> 00:04:37,290 squeeze all those productions right so 114 00:04:40,640 --> 00:04:39,060 they've made all these predictions at 115 00:04:44,180 --> 00:04:40,650 the end of last year what would happen 116 00:04:46,190 --> 00:04:44,190 this year mark their homework oh yes 117 00:04:48,800 --> 00:04:46,200 don't they usually do quite well because 118 00:04:50,990 --> 00:04:48,810 it is so unspecific well and then you 119 00:04:52,920 --> 00:04:51,000 can sort of pin anything on it only in 120 00:04:54,749 --> 00:04:52,930 the mirror universe I think 121 00:04:57,390 --> 00:04:54,759 things back to front you might say they 122 00:04:59,460 --> 00:04:57,400 do quite well well let's find out I'm 123 00:05:00,960 --> 00:04:59,470 really good that's actually a big bump 124 00:05:02,969 --> 00:05:00,970 bump a thing for each ear because yeah 125 00:05:05,430 --> 00:05:02,979 we'd be doing that for a while now did 126 00:05:08,760 --> 00:05:05,440 we make any predictions ourselves I'm 127 00:05:10,260 --> 00:05:08,770 trying to we probably did but I keep 128 00:05:13,200 --> 00:05:10,270 forgetting because they normally don't 129 00:05:15,689 --> 00:05:13,210 come true I can remember earlier in the 130 00:05:17,879 --> 00:05:15,699 year making asking people at skeptics in 131 00:05:19,260 --> 00:05:17,889 the pub right and I know some of their 132 00:05:21,060 --> 00:05:19,270 predictions have come true already oh 133 00:05:22,710 --> 00:05:21,070 goodness we're gonna have to check the 134 00:05:25,770 --> 00:05:22,720 archives of the skeptics known to find 135 00:05:27,510 --> 00:05:25,780 out what those predictions were but and 136 00:05:30,210 --> 00:05:27,520 and the flowers started blooming in 137 00:05:31,950 --> 00:05:30,220 spring that was my prediction oh yeah in 138 00:05:33,930 --> 00:05:31,960 autumn Isaac yeah I reckon some way 139 00:05:35,999 --> 00:05:33,940 around September yeah flowers are gonna 140 00:05:38,249 --> 00:05:36,009 start blooming birds are going to start 141 00:05:40,860 --> 00:05:38,259 singing and it all happened it sounds 142 00:05:43,740 --> 00:05:40,870 like a song if you could write a song 143 00:05:46,620 --> 00:05:43,750 about this anyway after the after all 144 00:05:49,230 --> 00:05:46,630 that hmm we've got a new segment a new 145 00:05:51,300 --> 00:05:49,240 one it's Maynard's but what does it mean 146 00:05:54,240 --> 00:05:51,310 hurts bookworm corner look look it's 147 00:05:57,029 --> 00:05:54,250 it's a gold-plated title Lane ads 148 00:06:00,060 --> 00:05:57,039 bookworm corner Maynard's going to be 149 00:06:01,230 --> 00:06:00,070 reviewing a book literature yes I read a 150 00:06:02,850 --> 00:06:01,240 book and I think people should know 151 00:06:03,990 --> 00:06:02,860 about that and I'll making the effort so 152 00:06:06,600 --> 00:06:04,000 should you what's the book you're 153 00:06:08,370 --> 00:06:06,610 reviewing may not it is it is question 154 00:06:09,750 --> 00:06:08,380 everything it's a book that has come 155 00:06:11,850 --> 00:06:09,760 from the back of the New Scientist 156 00:06:13,800 --> 00:06:11,860 magazine where readers write in and ask 157 00:06:15,899 --> 00:06:13,810 a question one week and then the next 158 00:06:17,580 --> 00:06:15,909 edition of the magazine another reader 159 00:06:19,170 --> 00:06:17,590 answers their question is showing its 160 00:06:21,749 --> 00:06:19,180 questions and answers about all fields 161 00:06:23,700 --> 00:06:21,759 of science that's a pretty fascinating 162 00:06:26,219 --> 00:06:23,710 book so made up and I had lunch the 163 00:06:28,230 --> 00:06:26,229 other day at the crate in a booth at the 164 00:06:30,120 --> 00:06:28,240 record Kraken Kraken glee point Rhoda 165 00:06:31,499 --> 00:06:30,130 uncle Neville showed us a few of his 166 00:06:34,680 --> 00:06:31,509 records there and you know he's got 167 00:06:36,570 --> 00:06:34,690 Frank Zappa and spy vs spy housing 168 00:06:38,339 --> 00:06:36,580 collectors and Big Pig all in the same 169 00:06:39,990 --> 00:06:38,349 record shop is that the shop with it 170 00:06:42,330 --> 00:06:40,000 with it has gigs upstairs yes right here 171 00:06:46,110 --> 00:06:42,340 are we doing gig up there and I thought 172 00:06:47,969 --> 00:06:46,120 wow that was totally packed yeah it was 173 00:06:51,360 --> 00:06:47,979 like people packed it up and up the 174 00:06:52,890 --> 00:06:51,370 stairs because it's a it's just like an 175 00:06:54,450 --> 00:06:52,900 old terrace house it's upstairs in old 176 00:06:57,480 --> 00:06:54,460 terraced house with no furniture yeah 177 00:06:58,999 --> 00:06:57,490 it's an amazing place but after that may 178 00:07:00,409 --> 00:06:59,009 not know it go down to pet 179 00:07:03,350 --> 00:07:00,419 market where Maynard's going to be 180 00:07:06,709 --> 00:07:03,360 interviewing joann thompson who runs a 181 00:07:08,899 --> 00:07:06,719 new age store yeah every now and then 182 00:07:10,339 --> 00:07:08,909 may not chance to New Age type people to 183 00:07:12,170 --> 00:07:10,349 find out where they're coming from and 184 00:07:14,540 --> 00:07:12,180 what their take is and why they do it 185 00:07:17,540 --> 00:07:14,550 and so a little chat with joann thompson 186 00:07:20,659 --> 00:07:17,550 from family interesting we are in a new 187 00:07:22,219 --> 00:07:20,669 age we are the internet a little in age 188 00:07:26,329 --> 00:07:22,229 to space-age oh that's nice like this 189 00:07:28,879 --> 00:07:26,339 message new a new ish Costa goes what 190 00:07:30,529 --> 00:07:28,889 here we were part in a bunch of new ages 191 00:07:31,909 --> 00:07:30,539 really when you think about it look she 192 00:07:34,909 --> 00:07:31,919 had a great collection of rock songs 193 00:07:37,249 --> 00:07:34,919 know about she did tumble tumble lock 194 00:07:38,989 --> 00:07:37,259 you know tumble tumble rocks here are 195 00:07:41,779 --> 00:07:38,999 y'all anyway she said she's a really 196 00:07:43,339 --> 00:07:41,789 lovely lady and I'm every now never i'm 197 00:07:45,320 --> 00:07:43,349 in Patty's markers i dropped by and say 198 00:07:47,629 --> 00:07:45,330 hello i think the first time I met her 199 00:07:49,459 --> 00:07:47,639 was it 00 years ago at another new age 200 00:07:51,469 --> 00:07:49,469 fair and I just struck up a conversation 201 00:07:53,510 --> 00:07:51,479 said what are you selling how's it going 202 00:07:55,909 --> 00:07:53,520 that's all coming up on this week's show 203 00:07:58,999 --> 00:07:55,919 great to hear from her it will be that's 204 00:08:01,249 --> 00:07:59,009 coming up on this week's show I'm tired 205 00:08:03,409 --> 00:08:01,259 already I'm exhausted just reading 206 00:08:05,209 --> 00:08:03,419 through what's coming up now we're gonna 207 00:08:06,980 --> 00:08:05,219 actually listen to it all oh yeah and 208 00:08:09,079 --> 00:08:06,990 I'm going to be spooked at the cemetery 209 00:08:11,119 --> 00:08:09,089 tonight I'm gonna be generally I could 210 00:08:16,040 --> 00:08:11,129 be genuinely pooping myself you could be 211 00:08:19,399 --> 00:08:16,050 hmm I Stefan might remember this my very 212 00:08:22,189 --> 00:08:19,409 original mini DVD camera has a night 213 00:08:24,709 --> 00:08:22,199 vision it stays true yeah I remember 214 00:08:26,209 --> 00:08:24,719 that so I'm going to take it up go to 215 00:08:28,070 --> 00:08:26,219 have of the cupboard yesterday haven't 216 00:08:29,629 --> 00:08:28,080 used it for about six years it was still 217 00:08:32,059 --> 00:08:29,639 worth still works so I'm going to be 218 00:08:34,399 --> 00:08:32,069 writing still works ghost night vision 219 00:08:36,680 --> 00:08:34,409 tonight seriously how health technology 220 00:08:37,969 --> 00:08:36,690 sometimes leave out some of the best 221 00:08:39,949 --> 00:08:37,979 features when they are great they're 222 00:08:41,899 --> 00:08:39,959 models is there that's a great feature 223 00:08:44,900 --> 00:08:41,909 you can film it completely in the dark 224 00:08:49,069 --> 00:08:44,910 it's really fun yeah anyway I've got an 225 00:08:50,930 --> 00:08:49,079 idea while you and I and may not run 226 00:08:53,150 --> 00:08:50,940 downstairs it have some peanut butter 227 00:08:57,019 --> 00:08:53,160 sandwiches or hey if we can find the 228 00:08:58,910 --> 00:08:57,029 bread well peanut butter on a spoon what 229 00:09:01,550 --> 00:08:58,920 about my work that will do there will 230 00:09:27,470 --> 00:09:01,560 let our listeners enjoy the skeptics are 231 00:09:35,010 --> 00:09:31,950 join Maynard Lethe adine myself Richard 232 00:09:37,740 --> 00:09:35,020 Saunders as we investigate ghosts the 233 00:09:42,630 --> 00:09:37,750 field of Mars cemetery with ghost 234 00:09:45,360 --> 00:09:42,640 hunters down under at ghd you calm day 235 00:09:47,490 --> 00:09:45,370 you this is the first part of a two-part 236 00:09:51,810 --> 00:09:47,500 report the second part will be next week 237 00:09:54,690 --> 00:09:51,820 and this part we start our ghost 238 00:09:58,080 --> 00:09:54,700 adventure and listen very closely to the 239 00:10:08,740 --> 00:09:58,090 spirit box do we hear communications 240 00:10:14,330 --> 00:10:11,480 cub reporter may not hear I'm speaking 241 00:10:16,640 --> 00:10:14,340 to you outside the entrance to the field 242 00:10:18,950 --> 00:10:16,650 of Mars cemetery it's around about what 243 00:10:21,860 --> 00:10:18,960 time is it Richard Saunders it's time I 244 00:10:23,480 --> 00:10:21,870 with the bed no it's up it's all it's 245 00:10:24,800 --> 00:10:23,490 just after eight o'clock I'm pretty full 246 00:10:26,570 --> 00:10:24,810 of trepidation but someone who's just 247 00:10:29,450 --> 00:10:26,580 right into this should be Alethea how 248 00:10:31,550 --> 00:10:29,460 are you hello how are you so you've been 249 00:10:33,650 --> 00:10:31,560 here and on this before yes I've been 250 00:10:35,540 --> 00:10:33,660 here with this a group before and they 251 00:10:37,910 --> 00:10:35,550 were a lovely bunch of people very 252 00:10:39,350 --> 00:10:37,920 enthusiastic and I mentioned my friend 253 00:10:42,140 --> 00:10:39,360 at the Australian skeptics might be 254 00:10:44,540 --> 00:10:42,150 interested in coming along and Richard 255 00:10:48,170 --> 00:10:44,550 was so you've seen some bunny rabbits 256 00:10:49,970 --> 00:10:48,180 already some spooky bunny rabbit okay 257 00:10:52,280 --> 00:10:49,980 Deborah members last time you went on 258 00:10:54,140 --> 00:10:52,290 ghosts to Richard about five years ago I 259 00:10:56,810 --> 00:10:54,150 think was out of place called picton 260 00:10:58,280 --> 00:10:56,820 which is west of Sydney but let's set 261 00:11:00,740 --> 00:10:58,290 the scene for the listeners here we're 262 00:11:03,890 --> 00:11:00,750 standing at the gates of this cemetery 263 00:11:05,840 --> 00:11:03,900 and it's getting quite dark now but we 264 00:11:08,060 --> 00:11:05,850 can still look beyond the gates into the 265 00:11:10,100 --> 00:11:08,070 cemetery and there's just grave stones 266 00:11:13,160 --> 00:11:10,110 as far as the eye can see in trees 267 00:11:15,200 --> 00:11:13,170 really and yes the occasional rabbit you 268 00:11:18,290 --> 00:11:15,210 keep saying ghost tour but we have to be 269 00:11:21,110 --> 00:11:18,300 clear this is a ghost investigation we 270 00:11:23,390 --> 00:11:21,120 are going to be investigating how 271 00:11:26,750 --> 00:11:23,400 haunted the cemetery is and also 272 00:11:30,080 --> 00:11:26,760 capturing some EVP and possibly some 273 00:11:32,240 --> 00:11:30,090 images what well we're said I've got my 274 00:11:34,640 --> 00:11:32,250 lovely still camera here which I've been 275 00:11:46,700 --> 00:11:34,650 using just now and I've got my video 276 00:11:48,440 --> 00:11:46,710 camera which has night vision as you can 277 00:11:50,390 --> 00:11:48,450 see I'm quite different I'm dressed 278 00:11:53,030 --> 00:11:50,400 different as everyone else pretty much 279 00:11:56,150 --> 00:11:53,040 the experiment for tonight is to see if 280 00:11:58,580 --> 00:11:56,160 they can see me and if i provoked them 281 00:12:00,860 --> 00:11:58,590 me anyway because I once dressed up 282 00:12:04,250 --> 00:12:00,870 quite a Victorian Gothic it was for an 283 00:12:07,820 --> 00:12:04,260 event in Parramatta and I got chord 284 00:12:13,010 --> 00:12:07,830 numerous names from part of my language 285 00:12:14,870 --> 00:12:13,020 a halt to psycho you name it so we're 286 00:12:16,730 --> 00:12:14,880 trying to see if again something will 287 00:12:19,860 --> 00:12:16,740 happen in this cemetery with the way I'm 288 00:12:24,990 --> 00:12:19,870 dressed let's hope nothing too 289 00:12:26,910 --> 00:12:25,000 let's have nothing too extreme yes I'll 290 00:12:29,250 --> 00:12:26,920 be set there's a few people at or what's 291 00:12:31,380 --> 00:12:29,260 your name my name is Tia Tia now is this 292 00:12:33,390 --> 00:12:31,390 your first tour it is my first tour and 293 00:12:35,670 --> 00:12:33,400 why are you here because my friend 294 00:12:37,260 --> 00:12:35,680 Nicole drags me along don't she 295 00:12:39,030 --> 00:12:37,270 mentioned it and I've always been into 296 00:12:40,800 --> 00:12:39,040 this stuff and I thought it would be 297 00:12:42,570 --> 00:12:40,810 really really fun when you say into this 298 00:12:44,130 --> 00:12:42,580 stuff you mean watching ghost stories 299 00:12:45,750 --> 00:12:44,140 you like watching documentaries what do 300 00:12:49,680 --> 00:12:45,760 you mean yeah um Ghost Hunters 301 00:12:51,420 --> 00:12:49,690 International um yeah no I really like 302 00:12:53,930 --> 00:12:51,430 paranormal activities and stuff like 303 00:12:56,070 --> 00:12:53,940 that and my kind of my whole family's 304 00:12:57,900 --> 00:12:56,080 insight into doing that and I was the 305 00:13:01,410 --> 00:12:57,910 only one who could come today so are you 306 00:13:04,230 --> 00:13:01,420 any sort of intuitive I'd like to say 307 00:13:06,860 --> 00:13:04,240 that I am but I'm probably not know 308 00:13:09,900 --> 00:13:06,870 anyone who's scared about going on this 309 00:13:12,210 --> 00:13:09,910 not really I'm more anxious to see what 310 00:13:15,480 --> 00:13:12,220 happens but not really scared okay well 311 00:13:16,829 --> 00:13:15,490 let's go not something I normally do 312 00:13:19,829 --> 00:13:16,839 when I said they night hang around a 313 00:13:22,350 --> 00:13:19,839 graveyard didn't ride but I gotta say it 314 00:13:24,300 --> 00:13:22,360 I'm finding it remarkably relaxing it's 315 00:13:25,829 --> 00:13:24,310 very peaceful here and looking at the 316 00:13:29,130 --> 00:13:25,839 graves and looking at people's stories 317 00:13:31,410 --> 00:13:29,140 it's a historical visit as well well 318 00:13:33,480 --> 00:13:31,420 Richard we're about 15 minutes into our 319 00:13:35,640 --> 00:13:33,490 two were here there's bats flying 320 00:13:37,980 --> 00:13:35,650 override symmetry we're currently near 321 00:13:39,390 --> 00:13:37,990 the war grave section and I can see in 322 00:13:41,070 --> 00:13:39,400 the distance some of the the Greek 323 00:13:42,960 --> 00:13:41,080 graves are lit up at night they have 324 00:13:45,140 --> 00:13:42,970 solar lights that oh they got candles 325 00:13:48,480 --> 00:13:45,150 burning there and it's it's it's very 326 00:13:50,190 --> 00:13:48,490 visually poetic you know it is and even 327 00:13:51,920 --> 00:13:50,200 though there's no moon tonight because 328 00:13:54,510 --> 00:13:51,930 we're in basically we're in Sydney 329 00:13:56,190 --> 00:13:54,520 there's no lights here but the like the 330 00:13:59,310 --> 00:13:56,200 glow of the city around this means that 331 00:14:01,320 --> 00:13:59,320 we can actually make out most of the the 332 00:14:04,230 --> 00:14:01,330 gravestones around us it's but it's so 333 00:14:05,820 --> 00:14:04,240 quiet so quiet it really is my first 334 00:14:07,740 --> 00:14:05,830 time in a graveyard at knife that may 335 00:14:11,370 --> 00:14:07,750 surprise you considering my interaction 336 00:14:13,110 --> 00:14:11,380 with the goth world I mean in a few at 337 00:14:14,610 --> 00:14:13,120 nighttime but I must admit this one it's 338 00:14:17,100 --> 00:14:14,620 got a certain atmosphere about it but 339 00:14:18,930 --> 00:14:17,110 it's such a still night isn't it that's 340 00:14:21,930 --> 00:14:18,940 part of it yeah there's no wind blowing 341 00:14:24,090 --> 00:14:21,940 we've got the palm trees set starkly 342 00:14:25,410 --> 00:14:24,100 silhouetted against the sky we had 343 00:14:28,199 --> 00:14:25,420 fireworks going off in the distance 344 00:14:30,240 --> 00:14:28,209 earlier and there are so many graves 345 00:14:31,410 --> 00:14:30,250 here we're just hundreds and thousands 346 00:14:33,420 --> 00:14:31,420 of graves that were 347 00:14:35,520 --> 00:14:33,430 the middle of yeah and now our two 348 00:14:38,790 --> 00:14:35,530 groups just down there below us a little 349 00:14:39,990 --> 00:14:38,800 way and our tour guide won't come near 350 00:14:41,610 --> 00:14:40,000 the spirit box we're going to go to 351 00:14:43,380 --> 00:14:41,620 where they're doing the EVPs the 352 00:14:46,680 --> 00:14:43,390 electronic voice phenomenon that picks 353 00:14:49,110 --> 00:14:46,690 up off frequency radio noises and white 354 00:14:51,540 --> 00:14:49,120 noise and she won't go near them she 355 00:14:53,070 --> 00:14:51,550 says it drains her cleaning them she 356 00:14:54,840 --> 00:14:53,080 said that but you know that's her call 357 00:15:01,080 --> 00:14:54,850 if she wants her paying back she can do 358 00:15:03,630 --> 00:15:01,090 that oh I just ask you about your 359 00:15:05,400 --> 00:15:03,640 feelings about to EVP and spirit box as 360 00:15:07,320 --> 00:15:05,410 you said that they drain you does that 361 00:15:08,730 --> 00:15:07,330 mean you just feel all any energy go out 362 00:15:10,980 --> 00:15:08,740 of you when you hear them or when you 363 00:15:12,960 --> 00:15:10,990 near the event or well when um neither 364 00:15:15,600 --> 00:15:12,970 spirit boxes it kind of drains me a 365 00:15:18,000 --> 00:15:15,610 little bit but but when something's 366 00:15:21,540 --> 00:15:18,010 trying to come through the spirit boxes 367 00:15:25,020 --> 00:15:21,550 it drawings me completely it's like all 368 00:15:32,280 --> 00:15:25,030 my energy is absorbed but whatever it is 369 00:15:34,230 --> 00:15:32,290 trying to get through and hi sorry you 370 00:15:36,630 --> 00:15:34,240 just saw something that did you yes I 371 00:15:42,680 --> 00:15:36,640 have a little someone's then-rep aside 372 00:15:46,680 --> 00:15:42,690 me it's a little boy is about six I 373 00:15:47,910 --> 00:15:46,690 might playing with my torch Wow well it 374 00:15:51,260 --> 00:15:47,920 is something kids would like to play 375 00:15:53,520 --> 00:15:51,270 with yeah that that's very true indeed 376 00:15:55,860 --> 00:15:53,530 well I might go and have a look at the 377 00:15:59,880 --> 00:15:55,870 EVPs in and you're going to stay here oh 378 00:16:03,590 --> 00:15:59,890 yeah I'll stay around here find someone 379 00:16:08,220 --> 00:16:06,090 you just mentioned the the spirit box 380 00:16:09,630 --> 00:16:08,230 there and I heard tonight that there's a 381 00:16:10,650 --> 00:16:09,640 new model of the spirit box out or 382 00:16:12,150 --> 00:16:10,660 something is that what they were talking 383 00:16:14,160 --> 00:16:12,160 about there's a lot of excitement among 384 00:16:17,310 --> 00:16:14,170 some people but there's different models 385 00:16:19,620 --> 00:16:17,320 what does that mean no much different it 386 00:16:22,160 --> 00:16:19,630 still does the same thing it pretty much 387 00:16:24,960 --> 00:16:22,170 goes from through a high frequency radio 388 00:16:26,250 --> 00:16:24,970 radio stations and through that the 389 00:16:29,040 --> 00:16:26,260 spirits can actually communicate by 390 00:16:30,840 --> 00:16:29,050 getting bits and pieces of words from 391 00:16:32,220 --> 00:16:30,850 the different radio stations and not 392 00:16:34,590 --> 00:16:32,230 many people might be aware that too with 393 00:16:37,800 --> 00:16:34,600 EVPs they come in classes too and a 394 00:16:39,510 --> 00:16:37,810 class a EVP is one where you can quite 395 00:16:42,810 --> 00:16:39,520 clearly hear words that the way it works 396 00:16:44,579 --> 00:16:42,820 yet so Class A EVPs pretty much one you 397 00:16:48,329 --> 00:16:44,589 can actually spot on here and understand 398 00:16:50,820 --> 00:16:48,339 what will sin then there's b-class EVPs 399 00:16:52,410 --> 00:16:50,830 and that's you can make out there's 400 00:16:55,050 --> 00:16:52,420 something there or even like a word but 401 00:17:01,220 --> 00:16:55,060 not a full sentence and then c class is 402 00:17:04,500 --> 00:17:01,230 maybe a branch or a whisper a sale going 403 00:17:06,900 --> 00:17:04,510 to be it should be wandering towards 404 00:17:08,699 --> 00:17:06,910 what they were calling the freshies i 405 00:17:10,410 --> 00:17:08,709 believe is that what they read the 406 00:17:13,530 --> 00:17:10,420 terminology that which is people who are 407 00:17:16,919 --> 00:17:13,540 more recently buried yeah how fresh is 408 00:17:20,010 --> 00:17:16,929 freshman out I wonder wonder but yes the 409 00:17:22,020 --> 00:17:20,020 recently departed we should say the 410 00:17:24,329 --> 00:17:22,030 fresh graves I believe they're using a 411 00:17:26,640 --> 00:17:24,339 spirit Fox there which is the EBP 412 00:17:28,710 --> 00:17:26,650 machine that rapidly fires through a 413 00:17:31,470 --> 00:17:28,720 whole bunch of frequencies on the radio 414 00:17:33,350 --> 00:17:31,480 spectrum creating samples from radio 415 00:17:35,790 --> 00:17:33,360 stations and a mixture of white noise 416 00:17:39,500 --> 00:17:35,800 yeah and from that they can extrapolate 417 00:17:42,950 --> 00:17:39,510 well possible messages so they say I 418 00:18:13,360 --> 00:17:42,960 guess you would say audio pareidolia 419 00:18:27,049 --> 00:18:18,200 lady and she said hello and then go 420 00:18:33,919 --> 00:18:27,059 physics and that would go figure can we 421 00:18:35,659 --> 00:18:33,929 get a hard from someone now that's the 422 00:18:37,190 --> 00:18:35,669 sound we're getting from a spirit box at 423 00:18:40,760 --> 00:18:37,200 have you found your experience using the 424 00:18:43,220 --> 00:18:40,770 spirit box tonight um I was really 425 00:18:45,500 --> 00:18:43,230 really intrigued really intrigued 426 00:18:49,820 --> 00:18:45,510 because we did get some replies back to 427 00:18:51,620 --> 00:18:49,830 what we asked definite replies right not 428 00:18:53,570 --> 00:18:51,630 this this is a lot of stuff that comes 429 00:18:55,940 --> 00:18:53,580 through that you can't make head nor 430 00:18:59,149 --> 00:18:55,950 tail off and that it kind of freaked me 431 00:19:03,529 --> 00:18:59,159 out a bit how you read that um excited 432 00:19:06,049 --> 00:19:03,539 minute the Steve thing we didn't and we 433 00:19:08,389 --> 00:19:06,059 were standing away from the graves and 434 00:19:10,639 --> 00:19:08,399 we got to Steve and then his lady said 435 00:19:12,320 --> 00:19:10,649 there's a Steve up here so we didn't 436 00:19:14,819 --> 00:19:12,330 even know there was a see very dear when 437 00:19:17,349 --> 00:19:14,829 it comes through 438 00:19:18,879 --> 00:19:17,359 alright yes sir you asked definite 439 00:19:20,289 --> 00:19:18,889 questions did you yeah oh that's right 440 00:19:21,819 --> 00:19:20,299 this is what I bought up in ask me buddy 441 00:19:24,789 --> 00:19:21,829 I've been asking everyone everyone this 442 00:19:27,519 --> 00:19:24,799 we're here on this on this tour um it is 443 00:19:29,469 --> 00:19:27,529 there a question you would ask someone 444 00:19:31,029 --> 00:19:29,479 who used to be from another realm that 445 00:19:32,649 --> 00:19:31,039 would give you an answer you go all 446 00:19:34,509 --> 00:19:32,659 right now I know what it's all about if 447 00:19:36,509 --> 00:19:34,519 you could answer ask one question and 448 00:19:41,259 --> 00:19:36,519 get a definite answer what would it be 449 00:19:46,499 --> 00:19:41,269 what's it like would you have one are 450 00:19:50,799 --> 00:19:46,509 you happy yeah Lots I suppose but yeah 451 00:19:53,319 --> 00:19:50,809 yeah okay well that your hen party here 452 00:19:55,329 --> 00:19:53,329 tonight yeah it is oh and has it been so 453 00:19:57,789 --> 00:19:55,339 far and it sound really good um before 454 00:20:00,430 --> 00:19:57,799 we had I heard child before and then 455 00:20:02,799 --> 00:20:00,440 Ellen's heard it too and I'm I had to 456 00:20:04,029 --> 00:20:02,809 ask was there any homes how far away the 457 00:20:07,690 --> 00:20:04,039 homes are around here in case it carried 458 00:20:09,459 --> 00:20:07,700 on the wind but yes and tell me how's 459 00:20:11,169 --> 00:20:09,469 your night been tonight yeah it's been 460 00:20:12,879 --> 00:20:11,179 really cool i'm pretty sure i saw an orb 461 00:20:15,699 --> 00:20:12,889 and there was something in the house 462 00:20:17,680 --> 00:20:15,709 over there something tall really tall 463 00:20:19,690 --> 00:20:17,690 and it didn't like us being there and it 464 00:20:21,369 --> 00:20:19,700 doesn't like would just described the 465 00:20:22,930 --> 00:20:21,379 orb for a moment we normally see them in 466 00:20:25,690 --> 00:20:22,940 photos a sort of something hanging in 467 00:20:28,779 --> 00:20:25,700 the air like dust what is it down mid 468 00:20:31,899 --> 00:20:28,789 calf height and a little bit smaller 469 00:20:34,419 --> 00:20:31,909 than a basketball spherical obviously 470 00:20:38,680 --> 00:20:34,429 was it glowing it was glowing silver and 471 00:20:40,269 --> 00:20:38,690 it was definitely there ya know in doing 472 00:20:42,279 --> 00:20:40,279 this kind of thing to be nice to find an 473 00:20:44,259 --> 00:20:42,289 answer to something but what question 474 00:20:46,539 --> 00:20:44,269 would you ask if you could get one 475 00:20:47,560 --> 00:20:46,549 question answered you got right that's 476 00:20:50,739 --> 00:20:47,570 what it's all about what would that 477 00:20:51,940 --> 00:20:50,749 question be what's out there hey Richard 478 00:20:54,129 --> 00:20:51,950 I've been asking everyone else this 479 00:20:56,229 --> 00:20:54,139 question I didn't think I sometimes will 480 00:20:57,849 --> 00:20:56,239 ask you I mean asking people if they 481 00:20:59,560 --> 00:20:57,859 could get one question answered or if 482 00:21:01,239 --> 00:20:59,570 they could find out something from other 483 00:21:03,519 --> 00:21:01,249 people that are appear to be in another 484 00:21:04,959 --> 00:21:03,529 realm would you ask another would you 485 00:21:09,849 --> 00:21:04,969 ask a question is there a question you'd 486 00:21:20,259 --> 00:21:09,859 like answered no I think we need to find 487 00:21:28,599 --> 00:21:23,279 in next week's report we round off our 488 00:21:38,749 --> 00:21:28,609 ghost investigation adventure and try 489 00:21:49,069 --> 00:21:47,299 a quick thank you to all those wonderful 490 00:21:51,709 --> 00:21:49,079 people who chipped in a little bit over 491 00:21:55,009 --> 00:21:51,719 the last couple of weeks to help the 492 00:21:56,930 --> 00:21:55,019 skeptics owned by a new iPad fantastic 493 00:22:00,739 --> 00:21:56,940 thank you once again very generous of 494 00:22:02,659 --> 00:22:00,749 you together we did it and if you want 495 00:22:04,489 --> 00:22:02,669 to subscribe to the skeptic zone chip in 496 00:22:08,689 --> 00:22:04,499 a little bit every week it really does 497 00:22:14,919 --> 00:22:08,699 help just visit www.a pigs on TV and 498 00:22:24,930 --> 00:22:19,669 on Maynard com au this is a time where 499 00:22:30,930 --> 00:22:28,140 Tim Ferguson's right of reply what's 500 00:22:32,760 --> 00:22:30,940 been sticking in your craw the Pope I 501 00:22:34,470 --> 00:22:32,770 mean normally I wouldn't go saying 502 00:22:37,830 --> 00:22:34,480 things against the Pope because he seems 503 00:22:39,720 --> 00:22:37,840 like a very kindly man this Pope got 504 00:22:41,970 --> 00:22:39,730 everybody in the inner city and glebe 505 00:22:44,280 --> 00:22:41,980 saying wow what a guy like he says it's 506 00:22:46,260 --> 00:22:44,290 great that gay people can be gay they're 507 00:22:48,450 --> 00:22:46,270 welcoming the church people can be 508 00:22:49,860 --> 00:22:48,460 murderers you know that's okay I 509 00:22:52,800 --> 00:22:49,870 actually heard him described as the 510 00:22:54,780 --> 00:22:52,810 atheists Pope and what do people know 511 00:22:56,760 --> 00:22:54,790 what that means yeah atheists have to 512 00:22:58,830 --> 00:22:56,770 take a long hard look at themselves in 513 00:23:00,990 --> 00:22:58,840 fact not too long not too hard because a 514 00:23:03,000 --> 00:23:01,000 lot of atheists really aren't much to 515 00:23:06,290 --> 00:23:03,010 look at which is part of the reason why 516 00:23:14,040 --> 00:23:06,300 they don't trust God on Manor com do you 517 00:23:16,050 --> 00:23:14,050 hey you welcome to a week in science 518 00:23:19,290 --> 00:23:16,060 from our iOS bringing you the science 519 00:23:22,140 --> 00:23:19,300 you need to know Brad Pitt Ryan Gosling 520 00:23:25,500 --> 00:23:22,150 and Jenson Button the sexiest men all 521 00:23:27,060 --> 00:23:25,510 have one thing in common facial hair but 522 00:23:31,060 --> 00:23:27,070 what is it about a beer that drives us 523 00:23:36,020 --> 00:23:34,130 guys I'm not joking there have been 524 00:23:39,140 --> 00:23:36,030 studies which have found a link between 525 00:23:41,630 --> 00:23:39,150 facial hair and sexual attractiveness in 526 00:23:43,280 --> 00:23:41,640 a 2013 study researchers found that 527 00:23:45,560 --> 00:23:43,290 women thought men with heavy stubble 528 00:23:48,680 --> 00:23:45,570 were more attractive than clean-shaven 529 00:23:50,240 --> 00:23:48,690 or full bearded men when it came to 530 00:23:52,850 --> 00:23:50,250 rating a face for an impression of 531 00:23:55,520 --> 00:23:52,860 parenting ability however the full beard 532 00:23:57,050 --> 00:23:55,530 came out on top test subjects were shown 533 00:23:59,150 --> 00:23:57,060 pictures of men at different stages of 534 00:24:01,340 --> 00:23:59,160 beard growth so the results weren't 535 00:24:03,770 --> 00:24:01,350 skewed by one man being more attractive 536 00:24:07,160 --> 00:24:03,780 than the rest similar results were found 537 00:24:09,380 --> 00:24:07,170 in a 2008 study but it also depends on 538 00:24:14,990 --> 00:24:09,390 the girl some of us like the whiskers 539 00:24:17,660 --> 00:24:15,000 others not so much so should you rush 540 00:24:20,360 --> 00:24:17,670 out for that facial hair transplant yeah 541 00:24:22,640 --> 00:24:20,370 that's a thing well it's not quite that 542 00:24:25,730 --> 00:24:22,650 clear-cut while the research is showing 543 00:24:27,890 --> 00:24:25,740 that stubble is most attractive more is 544 00:24:29,870 --> 00:24:27,900 not always better beards aren't 545 00:24:32,240 --> 00:24:29,880 necessarily more attractive than a clean 546 00:24:34,400 --> 00:24:32,250 face several studies have actually shown 547 00:24:36,320 --> 00:24:34,410 that the impression of aggressiveness 548 00:24:38,990 --> 00:24:36,330 increases with the amount of beard 549 00:24:41,450 --> 00:24:39,000 another study found that as beads become 550 00:24:43,760 --> 00:24:41,460 more common they become less attractive 551 00:24:45,770 --> 00:24:43,770 in the same way that clean-shaven was 552 00:24:48,920 --> 00:24:45,780 less attractive when it was more common 553 00:24:50,470 --> 00:24:48,930 and more attractive when it was rare it 554 00:24:53,330 --> 00:24:50,480 seems then that preferences change 555 00:24:56,150 --> 00:24:53,340 depending on what's fashionable and how 556 00:24:58,130 --> 00:24:56,160 many people have facial hair so if you 557 00:25:00,080 --> 00:24:58,140 want to impress the ladies then think 558 00:25:03,170 --> 00:25:00,090 about what's on your face and what's on 559 00:25:04,760 --> 00:25:03,180 everyone else's and now for fast facts 560 00:25:06,980 --> 00:25:04,770 about the sexual attractiveness of 561 00:25:09,720 --> 00:25:06,990 beards 562 00:25:11,640 --> 00:25:09,730 one theory of why stubble may be more 563 00:25:14,190 --> 00:25:11,650 attractive than clean-shaven or full 564 00:25:16,020 --> 00:25:14,200 beard is that men may be signaling that 565 00:25:18,240 --> 00:25:16,030 they're not overly masculine but are 566 00:25:20,669 --> 00:25:18,250 sexually mature with the potential to 567 00:25:22,799 --> 00:25:20,679 grow a full beard a woman's preference 568 00:25:25,770 --> 00:25:22,809 for facial hair changes only slightly 569 00:25:28,680 --> 00:25:25,780 depending on her hormonal reproductive 570 00:25:30,180 --> 00:25:28,690 and relationship status in experiments 571 00:25:32,850 --> 00:25:30,190 women with partners that were 572 00:25:35,310 --> 00:25:32,860 clean-shaven judged clean-shaven faces 573 00:25:37,500 --> 00:25:35,320 as most attractive whereas women with 574 00:25:39,960 --> 00:25:37,510 partners with heavy stubble judged heavy 575 00:25:42,690 --> 00:25:39,970 stubble as most attractive and on top of 576 00:25:44,730 --> 00:25:42,700 all that beards increased men's apparent 577 00:25:47,460 --> 00:25:44,740 age and social status compared to those 578 00:25:49,080 --> 00:25:47,470 with a clean-shaven face that's it for 579 00:25:50,970 --> 00:25:49,090 this week in science for more 580 00:25:54,320 --> 00:25:50,980 information on the sexual attraction of 581 00:25:58,830 --> 00:25:54,330 facial hair go to the rirs website RI 582 00:26:01,860 --> 00:25:58,840 aus org a you follow us on twitter at 583 00:26:03,539 --> 00:26:01,870 our iOS and like us on Facebook I'm 584 00:26:11,990 --> 00:26:03,549 Tanya Meyer and we'll catch you next 585 00:26:16,880 --> 00:26:14,720 hi I'm Finn and I'm Rebecca and where 586 00:26:18,620 --> 00:26:16,890 the skipper cons skipper Collins is an 587 00:26:20,300 --> 00:26:18,630 Irish podcast by the Dublin skeptics 588 00:26:21,890 --> 00:26:20,310 society it takes a conversational 589 00:26:23,150 --> 00:26:21,900 Reverend look at science news and 590 00:26:26,660 --> 00:26:23,160 skeptical topics from an Irish 591 00:26:38,360 --> 00:26:26,670 perspective you can find us out wws 592 00:26:43,470 --> 00:26:41,100 for almost ten years the Australian 593 00:26:46,230 --> 00:26:43,480 psychics directory now called the 594 00:26:48,240 --> 00:26:46,240 International psychics directory has 595 00:26:52,970 --> 00:26:48,250 published an annual magazine by the same 596 00:26:56,340 --> 00:26:52,980 name I have quite a few back issues here 597 00:26:59,070 --> 00:26:56,350 the last published edition was about 598 00:27:01,649 --> 00:26:59,080 this time last year with sally morgan on 599 00:27:05,880 --> 00:27:01,659 the cover the magazines have stories 600 00:27:08,549 --> 00:27:05,890 about psychics mostly advertising i 601 00:27:09,899 --> 00:27:08,559 think well mixture of advertising lots 602 00:27:11,600 --> 00:27:09,909 of advertising in fact when i look at 603 00:27:14,970 --> 00:27:11,610 the back cover including the famous 604 00:27:17,610 --> 00:27:14,980 little-known psychic humiliate skeptics 605 00:27:20,820 --> 00:27:17,620 with her amazingly accurate insider 606 00:27:23,580 --> 00:27:20,830 knowledge of life love and success you 607 00:27:26,250 --> 00:27:23,590 have yet to meet this little-known 608 00:27:28,409 --> 00:27:26,260 psychic she certainly hasn't humiliated 609 00:27:31,289 --> 00:27:28,419 any skeptics I know but never mind about 610 00:27:35,399 --> 00:27:31,299 that one of the things that they do do 611 00:27:37,740 --> 00:27:35,409 on this magazine every year they publish 612 00:27:40,740 --> 00:27:37,750 a section called tomorrow's news today 613 00:27:43,350 --> 00:27:40,750 top predictions for the coming year now 614 00:27:46,049 --> 00:27:43,360 for many years I've been not marking 615 00:27:47,549 --> 00:27:46,059 their homework so to speak and so far 616 00:27:49,409 --> 00:27:47,559 all the predictions and all these 617 00:27:55,200 --> 00:27:49,419 magazines over the year to average them 618 00:27:58,649 --> 00:27:55,210 all out the success rate is about five 619 00:28:00,750 --> 00:27:58,659 percent when I put it the other way it's 620 00:28:03,960 --> 00:28:00,760 ninety-five percent wrong more or less 621 00:28:06,269 --> 00:28:03,970 give or take open to argument it's very 622 00:28:08,580 --> 00:28:06,279 tricky to mark prediction sometimes of 623 00:28:11,399 --> 00:28:08,590 course a lot of them are vague a lot of 624 00:28:13,740 --> 00:28:11,409 them are open to interpretation but 625 00:28:16,710 --> 00:28:13,750 being generous it's about a ninety five 626 00:28:19,289 --> 00:28:16,720 percent failure rate but let's turn to 627 00:28:21,659 --> 00:28:19,299 the International psychics directory as 628 00:28:25,380 --> 00:28:21,669 the one last year was called and let's 629 00:28:32,180 --> 00:28:25,390 see what predictions were made for this 630 00:28:34,560 --> 00:28:32,190 year for 2014 prediction number one 631 00:28:37,380 --> 00:28:34,570 Indonesia to be hit by a large 632 00:28:41,630 --> 00:28:37,390 earthquake and Milo tsunami in May or 633 00:28:44,040 --> 00:28:41,640 June 2014 this will not impact Bali 634 00:28:46,350 --> 00:28:44,050 there will be another big storm with 635 00:28:48,690 --> 00:28:46,360 some flooding affecting New York in mid 636 00:28:54,540 --> 00:28:48,700 year but not as large as the storm of 637 00:28:56,820 --> 00:28:54,550 late 2012 Elizabeth Jensen a magnitude 6 638 00:28:59,640 --> 00:28:56,830 earthquake did strike as sumatra 639 00:29:02,310 --> 00:28:59,650 indonesia on the 18th of May at a depth 640 00:29:05,310 --> 00:29:02,320 of 35 kilometers there's nothing 641 00:29:07,230 --> 00:29:05,320 reported for June there were some storm 642 00:29:10,610 --> 00:29:07,240 activities in New York but nothing out 643 00:29:13,500 --> 00:29:10,620 of the ordinary prediction number to 644 00:29:18,690 --> 00:29:13,510 Hawaii to suffer another large volcanic 645 00:29:21,060 --> 00:29:18,700 eruption mid-year Heather Alexander in 646 00:29:23,970 --> 00:29:21,070 June this year new vents did open up on 647 00:29:27,330 --> 00:29:23,980 the north east flank of one of volcanoes 648 00:29:29,130 --> 00:29:27,340 in Hawaii there was some lava flow where 649 00:29:31,500 --> 00:29:29,140 this does happen from time to time and 650 00:29:35,250 --> 00:29:31,510 is not particularly unexpected 651 00:29:36,990 --> 00:29:35,260 prediction number three we will continue 652 00:29:39,510 --> 00:29:37,000 to see regularly extreme weather 653 00:29:42,300 --> 00:29:39,520 conditions from January through to April 654 00:29:44,160 --> 00:29:42,310 with mini tornado activity and heavy 655 00:29:46,380 --> 00:29:44,170 rains on the eastern seaboard of 656 00:29:51,330 --> 00:29:46,390 Australia from the capricornia coast 657 00:29:55,400 --> 00:29:51,340 down to Wollongong Jade sky normal range 658 00:30:00,110 --> 00:29:55,410 of weather events were reported no midi 659 00:30:02,670 --> 00:30:00,120 tornados prediction number for 660 00:30:05,330 --> 00:30:02,680 earthquakes will be experienced in major 661 00:30:08,400 --> 00:30:05,340 cities around australia in febri march 662 00:30:11,220 --> 00:30:08,410 2014 the quakes in western australia 663 00:30:13,710 --> 00:30:11,230 will be the most severe there will be 664 00:30:18,750 --> 00:30:13,720 warnings so people can prepare for these 665 00:30:22,020 --> 00:30:18,760 events dr. mariah rose kiss totally 666 00:30:24,810 --> 00:30:22,030 wrong and earthquakes normally occur 667 00:30:27,560 --> 00:30:24,820 without warning it's the aftershocks you 668 00:30:33,560 --> 00:30:27,570 can expect but the earthquake itself is 669 00:30:37,920 --> 00:30:36,000 dredging in the Great Barrier Reef will 670 00:30:42,240 --> 00:30:37,930 be put to a halt by the power of the 671 00:30:44,310 --> 00:30:42,250 people Debbie Malone as a reported in 672 00:30:45,330 --> 00:30:44,320 November the government says it will ban 673 00:30:47,010 --> 00:30:45,340 dredge spoil 674 00:30:50,130 --> 00:30:47,020 jumping in the Great Barrier Reef Marine 675 00:30:53,480 --> 00:30:50,140 Park but environment groups have raised 676 00:31:00,150 --> 00:30:53,490 concerns does this fit the prediction 677 00:31:01,740 --> 00:31:00,160 hmmm maybe it could be you might be 678 00:31:05,840 --> 00:31:01,750 generous I'll be generous and I'll give 679 00:31:08,370 --> 00:31:05,850 it half a point prediction number six 680 00:31:10,500 --> 00:31:08,380 there are peers to be an increase in 681 00:31:14,850 --> 00:31:10,510 deaths for boat people trying to reach 682 00:31:17,640 --> 00:31:14,860 Australia Elizabeth Jensen now this 683 00:31:20,700 --> 00:31:17,650 prediction is absolutely wrong because 684 00:31:22,590 --> 00:31:20,710 there are hardly any if any and all 685 00:31:25,050 --> 00:31:22,600 about people now reaching Australia due 686 00:31:28,020 --> 00:31:25,060 to a change of government and government 687 00:31:29,940 --> 00:31:28,030 policy the rights and wrongs about this 688 00:31:35,580 --> 00:31:29,950 we can debate another time but the fact 689 00:31:38,670 --> 00:31:35,590 is that asylum seekers are not drowning 690 00:31:41,880 --> 00:31:38,680 on the way to Australia well not between 691 00:31:44,160 --> 00:31:41,890 Indonesia and Australia it's debatable 692 00:31:45,660 --> 00:31:44,170 maybe some of struck trouble on the way 693 00:31:47,630 --> 00:31:45,670 from their respective countries to 694 00:31:49,860 --> 00:31:47,640 Indonesia before getting to Australia 695 00:31:54,590 --> 00:31:49,870 but I think the gist of this prediction 696 00:31:57,930 --> 00:31:54,600 is totally wrong prediction number seven 697 00:32:00,210 --> 00:31:57,940 by the end of 2014 Tony Abbott will 698 00:32:02,370 --> 00:32:00,220 reduce the national debt but will break 699 00:32:04,680 --> 00:32:02,380 the back of ordinary Australians doing 700 00:32:07,050 --> 00:32:04,690 it there will be a period where his own 701 00:32:09,140 --> 00:32:07,060 party will try to replace him but if 702 00:32:12,780 --> 00:32:09,150 powerful and wealthy la will back him 703 00:32:15,240 --> 00:32:12,790 Juanita this was the stated aim of our 704 00:32:16,800 --> 00:32:15,250 Tony Abbott so it's hardly a good 705 00:32:19,410 --> 00:32:16,810 prediction or hardly a meaningful 706 00:32:22,080 --> 00:32:19,420 prediction and the rest is simply open 707 00:32:24,360 --> 00:32:22,090 to argument door is wrong prediction 708 00:32:26,670 --> 00:32:24,370 number eight the Australian Government 709 00:32:29,670 --> 00:32:26,680 will have to do some big backpedaling 710 00:32:31,680 --> 00:32:29,680 around februari March 2014 to do with 711 00:32:35,010 --> 00:32:31,690 international trade and relations with 712 00:32:37,140 --> 00:32:35,020 Indonesia there may be big complex 713 00:32:39,030 --> 00:32:37,150 around Easter time with travel warnings 714 00:32:40,340 --> 00:32:39,040 in place for Australians traveling to 715 00:32:44,029 --> 00:32:40,350 Indonesia and 716 00:32:47,120 --> 00:32:44,039 areas Jade sky hardly surprising 717 00:32:49,070 --> 00:32:47,130 prediction this because it was very much 718 00:32:50,840 --> 00:32:49,080 in the news that the towards the end of 719 00:32:53,690 --> 00:32:50,850 last year the troubles that our current 720 00:32:56,600 --> 00:32:53,700 government had with the government of 721 00:33:01,010 --> 00:32:56,610 Indonesia this is merely extrapolating 722 00:33:03,200 --> 00:33:01,020 that information I it should a psychic 723 00:33:05,419 --> 00:33:03,210 prediction should be a mystical insight 724 00:33:07,370 --> 00:33:05,429 something that people couldn't know by 725 00:33:09,680 --> 00:33:07,380 other means so I'm going to have to give 726 00:33:13,039 --> 00:33:09,690 this one a big fat failure prediction 727 00:33:14,990 --> 00:33:13,049 number nine new strategies will be put 728 00:33:17,950 --> 00:33:15,000 into place to improve our medical system 729 00:33:20,210 --> 00:33:17,960 especially the mental health sector 730 00:33:22,460 --> 00:33:20,220 Australia's education system will 731 00:33:24,680 --> 00:33:22,470 undergo a major overhaul to improve the 732 00:33:28,220 --> 00:33:24,690 level of academic standards nationally 733 00:33:32,899 --> 00:33:28,230 Francis belen this prediction falls flat 734 00:33:35,180 --> 00:33:32,909 on both counts prediction number 10 Tony 735 00:33:37,310 --> 00:33:35,190 Abbott will lose face with both the 736 00:33:39,590 --> 00:33:37,320 Indonesian government and the Australian 737 00:33:42,409 --> 00:33:39,600 people by not following through with his 738 00:33:44,149 --> 00:33:42,419 asylum seeker policies travel to 739 00:33:46,130 --> 00:33:44,159 indonesia will become unsafe to 740 00:33:50,720 --> 00:33:46,140 australian travelers due to these issues 741 00:33:53,270 --> 00:33:50,730 Danny Malone absolutely incorrect well 742 00:33:57,010 --> 00:33:53,280 alright Tony Abbott has lost face in 743 00:33:59,539 --> 00:33:57,020 Australia Prime Minister's often do but 744 00:34:01,970 --> 00:33:59,549 but he stuck to his guns rightly or 745 00:34:07,190 --> 00:34:01,980 wrongly on the whole immigration 746 00:34:09,560 --> 00:34:07,200 question prediction number 11 my leg 747 00:34:11,950 --> 00:34:09,570 earthquakes in Japan and Tokyo but not 748 00:34:15,290 --> 00:34:11,960 on the same scale is the 2011 quakes 749 00:34:18,080 --> 00:34:15,300 Elizabeth Jensen this is a prediction 750 00:34:21,859 --> 00:34:18,090 that's almost guaranteed come true every 751 00:34:23,960 --> 00:34:21,869 year prediction number 12 politics 752 00:34:26,899 --> 00:34:23,970 settle and tourists return to age it 753 00:34:30,580 --> 00:34:26,909 from late 2014 their economy will 754 00:34:33,109 --> 00:34:30,590 improve in 2015 Elizabeth Jensen 755 00:34:34,940 --> 00:34:33,119 although Egypt hasn't been in the news 756 00:34:38,240 --> 00:34:34,950 much lately I don't think the politics 757 00:34:40,399 --> 00:34:38,250 have settled at all it's possible that 758 00:34:42,859 --> 00:34:40,409 some people are returning to Egypt once 759 00:34:45,530 --> 00:34:42,869 again for tourism matters but but it's 760 00:34:48,070 --> 00:34:45,540 hardly the tourists maker at once was we 761 00:34:50,970 --> 00:34:48,080 hope the situation will improve 762 00:34:53,200 --> 00:34:50,980 prediction number 13 763 00:34:55,180 --> 00:34:53,210 there will be further unrest in the 764 00:34:57,130 --> 00:34:55,190 Middle East and extremists will take 765 00:35:00,280 --> 00:34:57,140 action that will leave everyone shocked 766 00:35:04,240 --> 00:35:00,290 it will rival or equal the events of the 767 00:35:06,040 --> 00:35:04,250 911 World Trade Center when it all wow 768 00:35:07,720 --> 00:35:06,050 this is really open to interpretation of 769 00:35:12,930 --> 00:35:07,730 course we've had the Islamic state doing 770 00:35:17,140 --> 00:35:12,940 horrible things but would you say that's 771 00:35:19,120 --> 00:35:17,150 worse than 911 it's it's one of the 772 00:35:20,380 --> 00:35:19,130 problems with these vague predictions I 773 00:35:22,920 --> 00:35:20,390 mean you could look at it that way or 774 00:35:26,590 --> 00:35:22,930 you might not look at it that way I 775 00:35:28,960 --> 00:35:26,600 would have thought the mystical insight 776 00:35:30,910 --> 00:35:28,970 would have said Islamic staden mentioned 777 00:35:33,850 --> 00:35:30,920 the horrors that they were and are 778 00:35:37,050 --> 00:35:33,860 perpetrating so to me this just doesn't 779 00:35:39,850 --> 00:35:37,060 cut the mustard prediction number 14 780 00:35:41,770 --> 00:35:39,860 further mass shootings across America 781 00:35:43,750 --> 00:35:41,780 result in some compromise between the 782 00:35:46,840 --> 00:35:43,760 gun lobby and the current administration 783 00:35:51,070 --> 00:35:46,850 as a result new gun reforms will be 784 00:35:52,480 --> 00:35:51,080 implemented Susie cherub well the first 785 00:35:54,970 --> 00:35:52,490 part of this prediction is sadly 786 00:35:58,210 --> 00:35:54,980 predictable and the second part is 787 00:36:02,410 --> 00:35:58,220 simply wrong sadly it's wrong prediction 788 00:36:04,900 --> 00:36:02,420 number 15 cooperation between the USA 789 00:36:06,730 --> 00:36:04,910 and au is going to be much stronger as a 790 00:36:10,900 --> 00:36:06,740 free trade agreement is finalized 791 00:36:13,030 --> 00:36:10,910 quickly Denise the talk free trade 792 00:36:19,570 --> 00:36:13,040 agreement is still under negotiations 793 00:36:21,970 --> 00:36:19,580 fail prediction number 16 chaos ensues 794 00:36:24,180 --> 00:36:21,980 when an American city perhaps to a 795 00:36:27,940 --> 00:36:24,190 shutdown with no electricity for days 796 00:36:30,810 --> 00:36:27,950 maunder Robertson I can't find any 797 00:36:34,330 --> 00:36:30,820 reports that would fit this bill no 798 00:36:36,640 --> 00:36:34,340 prediction number 17 more women in 799 00:36:39,520 --> 00:36:36,650 general as set to rise politically and 800 00:36:41,170 --> 00:36:39,530 become world leaders Hillary Clinton is 801 00:36:43,810 --> 00:36:41,180 one who led the way with New Zealand 802 00:36:47,620 --> 00:36:43,820 also elect in a female prime minister in 803 00:36:48,910 --> 00:36:47,630 the near future Harry T the first part 804 00:36:51,250 --> 00:36:48,920 of this prediction is absolutely 805 00:36:54,150 --> 00:36:51,260 expected and the second part is 806 00:36:56,950 --> 00:36:54,160 absolutely wrong prediction number 18 807 00:36:58,840 --> 00:36:56,960 John eager is turning fifty one is here 808 00:37:00,990 --> 00:36:58,850 and this may be a factor 809 00:37:03,430 --> 00:37:01,000 his new philanthropic attitude 810 00:37:05,650 --> 00:37:03,440 fundraising for and giving to the hungry 811 00:37:07,660 --> 00:37:05,660 is to become his new passion and the 812 00:37:11,440 --> 00:37:07,670 media will lionize him for his efforts 813 00:37:13,450 --> 00:37:11,450 Jeffrey hunt Johnny Depp supports many 814 00:37:16,860 --> 00:37:13,460 worthy charities and has done so for 815 00:37:20,590 --> 00:37:16,870 years there's nothing surprising here 816 00:37:23,020 --> 00:37:20,600 prediction 19 there will be an explosion 817 00:37:24,850 --> 00:37:23,030 of feel good and comedy films and a new 818 00:37:26,560 --> 00:37:24,860 breed of young gentle heroes doing 819 00:37:28,930 --> 00:37:26,570 peaceful demonstrations in their 820 00:37:31,930 --> 00:37:28,940 thousands some people in high places 821 00:37:34,030 --> 00:37:31,940 will change their way of thinking all 822 00:37:36,430 --> 00:37:34,040 over the world powerful and inspiring 823 00:37:40,230 --> 00:37:36,440 messages of love and hope will be passed 824 00:37:45,060 --> 00:37:40,240 on through modern music kawena Gordon 825 00:37:48,520 --> 00:37:45,070 this is pretty close to being word salad 826 00:37:51,360 --> 00:37:48,530 this is hardly a prediction you could 827 00:37:55,000 --> 00:37:51,370 put your finger on not impressed 828 00:37:57,160 --> 00:37:55,010 prediction number 20 a new album from 829 00:38:00,190 --> 00:37:57,170 Brisbane bad Shepherd will produce at 830 00:38:02,380 --> 00:38:00,200 least two top-10 hits there will be a 831 00:38:06,580 --> 00:38:02,390 number of chart making new releases from 832 00:38:08,800 --> 00:38:06,590 Oz music icons of the 80s and 90s a new 833 00:38:11,460 --> 00:38:08,810 album from The Veronicas will receive 834 00:38:16,060 --> 00:38:11,470 mixed reviews a beer commercial success 835 00:38:17,860 --> 00:38:16,070 lela Williams Shepherd had one hit so 836 00:38:20,220 --> 00:38:17,870 the first parts are fail and the new 837 00:38:24,550 --> 00:38:20,230 album from The Veronicas has yet to be 838 00:38:28,690 --> 00:38:24,560 put out so that's still open prediction 839 00:38:31,300 --> 00:38:28,700 21 a serious health scare factor Robin 840 00:38:32,950 --> 00:38:31,310 Williams will make headlines he will 841 00:38:34,990 --> 00:38:32,960 become a spokesperson for this 842 00:38:37,530 --> 00:38:35,000 particular condition raising the west 843 00:38:40,090 --> 00:38:37,540 and millions of dollars in donations a 844 00:38:44,800 --> 00:38:40,100 member of The Rolling Stones makes his 845 00:38:46,840 --> 00:38:44,810 final farewell no elsker first part is a 846 00:38:49,960 --> 00:38:46,850 fail for me because Robin Williams 847 00:38:54,400 --> 00:38:49,970 committed suicide all right yes there 848 00:38:56,590 --> 00:38:54,410 could be some raised awareness of what 849 00:38:58,990 --> 00:38:56,600 he was suffering from but the gist of 850 00:39:00,730 --> 00:38:59,000 the prediction is completely wrong in 851 00:39:07,330 --> 00:39:00,740 the second part about the Rolling Stones 852 00:39:09,280 --> 00:39:07,340 is also just wrong prediction 22 Kate 853 00:39:10,270 --> 00:39:09,290 and William are likely to announce a new 854 00:39:12,730 --> 00:39:10,280 pregnancy 855 00:39:14,500 --> 00:39:12,740 at the same time plans for Charles to 856 00:39:17,440 --> 00:39:14,510 take over from his mother will further 857 00:39:19,330 --> 00:39:17,450 put the spotlight on the Royals Queen 858 00:39:21,430 --> 00:39:19,340 Elizabeth may do the unthinkable and 859 00:39:24,370 --> 00:39:21,440 agree to education so that her eldest 860 00:39:27,520 --> 00:39:24,380 son can stop growing tomatoes Simon 861 00:39:29,920 --> 00:39:27,530 Turnbull well the last published 862 00:39:33,010 --> 00:39:29,930 prediction that i know of by Simon 863 00:39:36,040 --> 00:39:33,020 Turnbull if we look back over the years 864 00:39:38,440 --> 00:39:36,050 this whole theme of the Queen abdicating 865 00:39:40,000 --> 00:39:38,450 or stepping down in some respect has 866 00:39:41,530 --> 00:39:40,010 been quite common with Simon's 867 00:39:46,600 --> 00:39:41,540 predictions he seems to predict it 868 00:39:49,990 --> 00:39:46,610 almost every year so the Queen doesn't I 869 00:39:53,700 --> 00:39:50,000 don't think she ever will another fail 870 00:39:57,040 --> 00:39:53,710 for Simon and the first part about 871 00:40:01,140 --> 00:39:57,050 William and Catherine expecting or 872 00:40:03,760 --> 00:40:01,150 likely to expect well that was expected 873 00:40:05,560 --> 00:40:03,770 I'm sorry Simon turnbull's no longer 874 00:40:10,300 --> 00:40:05,570 with us but here's predictions in this 875 00:40:12,010 --> 00:40:10,310 case do not impress me prediction 23 the 876 00:40:13,720 --> 00:40:12,020 Australian dollar will rise and 877 00:40:16,930 --> 00:40:13,730 progressively grow stronger through our 878 00:40:18,970 --> 00:40:16,940 2014 the euro will struggle throughout 879 00:40:20,920 --> 00:40:18,980 the year and there will be riots across 880 00:40:24,640 --> 00:40:20,930 Europe due to frustration with 881 00:40:26,530 --> 00:40:24,650 unemployment poverty and uncertainty the 882 00:40:30,370 --> 00:40:26,540 American stock market will take a dive 883 00:40:33,310 --> 00:40:30,380 and come close to a crash in 2014 susie 884 00:40:34,780 --> 00:40:33,320 cherub a little bit vague and around the 885 00:40:36,630 --> 00:40:34,790 edges but the main thrust of the 886 00:40:40,360 --> 00:40:36,640 predictions here were completely wrong 887 00:40:42,840 --> 00:40:40,370 prediction twenty four finalists will 888 00:40:53,650 --> 00:40:42,850 develop a new technology using sand 889 00:40:56,920 --> 00:40:53,660 mark-paul what huh okay not much I can 890 00:41:01,030 --> 00:40:56,930 do with that prediction sand production 891 00:41:02,830 --> 00:41:01,040 25 an Australian scientists is likely to 892 00:41:06,250 --> 00:41:02,840 discover a new treatment for cancer 893 00:41:07,750 --> 00:41:06,260 bringing new hope to many people one 894 00:41:10,000 --> 00:41:07,760 solution to the high cost of the 895 00:41:12,400 --> 00:41:10,010 treatment may be found through the Bill 896 00:41:16,150 --> 00:41:12,410 and Melinda Gates Foundation Heather 897 00:41:19,210 --> 00:41:16,160 Alexander well apart from being a little 898 00:41:20,890 --> 00:41:19,220 vague or you might say that this sort of 899 00:41:22,750 --> 00:41:20,900 thing happens almost every year someone 900 00:41:23,359 --> 00:41:22,760 will find something which helps people 901 00:41:25,670 --> 00:41:23,369 in them 902 00:41:27,380 --> 00:41:25,680 of cancer research the second part 903 00:41:28,999 --> 00:41:27,390 appears to be wrong as far as I know 904 00:41:31,009 --> 00:41:29,009 unless Bill and Melinda Gates have 905 00:41:32,480 --> 00:41:31,019 donated a substantial amount to cancer 906 00:41:35,809 --> 00:41:32,490 research which they may well have done 907 00:41:38,420 --> 00:41:35,819 I'm not sure about that but not an 908 00:41:41,480 --> 00:41:38,430 impressive prediction well if we round 909 00:41:44,930 --> 00:41:41,490 them all up average them out give and 910 00:41:47,859 --> 00:41:44,940 take open to interpretation surprisingly 911 00:41:51,470 --> 00:41:47,869 it still comes out to be around about 912 00:41:53,569 --> 00:41:51,480 ninety-five percent wrong there were a 913 00:41:55,999 --> 00:41:53,579 few in there I gave half a point to and 914 00:41:58,819 --> 00:41:56,009 others you might decide to give a point 915 00:42:01,339 --> 00:41:58,829 to or take a point away going to 916 00:42:04,420 --> 00:42:01,349 interpretation but I think you'd have to 917 00:42:07,819 --> 00:42:04,430 agree with me it's largely a fail 918 00:42:11,029 --> 00:42:07,829 remember most of what psychics predict 919 00:42:31,240 --> 00:42:11,039 doesn't happen and most of what happens 920 00:42:35,000 --> 00:42:33,470 now folks I've been talking about the 921 00:42:37,040 --> 00:42:35,010 Australian skeptics National Convention 922 00:42:39,800 --> 00:42:37,050 for months now and it's hard to believe 923 00:42:41,690 --> 00:42:39,810 it's almost upon us and I'm talking now 924 00:42:43,280 --> 00:42:41,700 with the president of Australian 925 00:42:45,410 --> 00:42:43,290 skeptics and the man putting the 926 00:42:47,240 --> 00:42:45,420 convention together you know him from a 927 00:42:50,390 --> 00:42:47,250 grain of salt or answer give hello Ron 928 00:42:51,920 --> 00:42:50,400 how is it exciting it's almost upon us 929 00:42:53,810 --> 00:42:51,930 yes it's exciting it's exciting 930 00:42:56,510 --> 00:42:53,820 especially because first of all we have 931 00:42:58,880 --> 00:42:56,520 a great lineup of speakers there's sure 932 00:43:01,070 --> 00:42:58,890 most of the listeners would know it's 933 00:43:04,280 --> 00:43:01,080 coming along together really nicely we 934 00:43:07,570 --> 00:43:04,290 are in terms of our organizational tasks 935 00:43:09,920 --> 00:43:07,580 we are ahead of schedule so we expect a 936 00:43:12,680 --> 00:43:09,930 reasonably quiet last week you know 937 00:43:14,630 --> 00:43:12,690 usually we remember from Tamar's yeah 938 00:43:16,640 --> 00:43:14,640 the last week is the week where you 939 00:43:17,990 --> 00:43:16,650 don't sleep or eat you just ran straight 940 00:43:20,420 --> 00:43:18,000 on the connection I think it's going to 941 00:43:22,490 --> 00:43:20,430 be a little bit better this time i want 942 00:43:23,570 --> 00:43:22,500 to point I just I really have to say you 943 00:43:25,460 --> 00:43:23,580 know you said the man putting it 944 00:43:29,350 --> 00:43:25,470 together this I well I do have to 945 00:43:32,540 --> 00:43:29,360 mention team signature and Josh yes um 946 00:43:34,100 --> 00:43:32,550 my co-conspirators we will everybody's 947 00:43:35,330 --> 00:43:34,110 working very hard obviously to make sure 948 00:43:36,560 --> 00:43:35,340 that this is a great success oh 949 00:43:38,750 --> 00:43:36,570 absolutely the whole convention 950 00:43:41,510 --> 00:43:38,760 comedians I remember from four years ago 951 00:43:44,690 --> 00:43:41,520 when you and I and some other phn job 952 00:43:47,420 --> 00:43:44,700 range and Joe and Tim and Tim was only 953 00:43:50,270 --> 00:43:47,430 the 10 convention can be it's a big ask 954 00:43:52,670 --> 00:43:50,280 it's a lot of work now Terra australia i 955 00:43:54,560 --> 00:43:52,680 thought was a great success and this 956 00:43:58,910 --> 00:43:54,570 one's shaping up to be just as great 957 00:44:00,860 --> 00:43:58,920 yeah so we have some we have i think the 958 00:44:02,930 --> 00:44:00,870 whole lineup is really fantastic but I 959 00:44:04,730 --> 00:44:02,940 me if I could point out just a few you 960 00:44:08,330 --> 00:44:04,740 highlights then obviously we have the 961 00:44:12,290 --> 00:44:08,340 SGU having giving to public recordings 962 00:44:14,180 --> 00:44:12,300 of the podcast we have a fantastic panel 963 00:44:16,190 --> 00:44:14,190 on consumer protection this is something 964 00:44:18,290 --> 00:44:16,200 that we have not traditionally focused 965 00:44:20,180 --> 00:44:18,300 on publicly although obviously a lot of 966 00:44:21,380 --> 00:44:20,190 what we do is public put a sorry 967 00:44:23,630 --> 00:44:21,390 consumer protection not yelling 968 00:44:26,870 --> 00:44:23,640 protection a lot of it is consumer 969 00:44:28,430 --> 00:44:26,880 protection but this is now real focus 970 00:44:30,890 --> 00:44:28,440 you know we have an hour and a half long 971 00:44:33,220 --> 00:44:30,900 panel with some red leading highlights 972 00:44:35,160 --> 00:44:33,230 in consumer protection and moderated by 973 00:44:37,319 --> 00:44:35,170 march from 974 00:44:40,710 --> 00:44:37,329 decide skeptics cool so we'll have him 975 00:44:43,410 --> 00:44:40,720 giving a talk as well we have Ken 976 00:44:44,880 --> 00:44:43,420 Frazier who is the editor of the of the 977 00:44:48,569 --> 00:44:44,890 script of The Skeptical Inquirer 978 00:44:52,349 --> 00:44:48,579 magazine which is the the one older 979 00:44:54,210 --> 00:44:52,359 septic a magazine than our own time ok 980 00:44:56,309 --> 00:44:54,220 so we'll have the two editors of the two 981 00:44:59,539 --> 00:44:56,319 oldest magazines in the room together 982 00:45:02,069 --> 00:44:59,549 that's quite good yeah that's quite 983 00:45:03,809 --> 00:45:02,079 unfortunately we've had that we've lost 984 00:45:06,180 --> 00:45:03,819 a couple of speakers recently Sonia 985 00:45:10,740 --> 00:45:06,190 Pemberton who was supposed to speak at 986 00:45:13,140 --> 00:45:10,750 the convention had to go to to the US 987 00:45:15,120 --> 00:45:13,150 and Africa she's actually making a movie 988 00:45:17,099 --> 00:45:15,130 about Ebola pretty important work it is 989 00:45:18,539 --> 00:45:17,109 very important work and she had to go 990 00:45:22,170 --> 00:45:18,549 obviously this is not something that can 991 00:45:26,609 --> 00:45:22,180 wait but we've replaced her with dr. 992 00:45:29,579 --> 00:45:26,619 grant he'll call phone call phone who is 993 00:45:31,710 --> 00:45:29,589 a specialist in infectious diseases and 994 00:45:35,099 --> 00:45:31,720 Nina bola in particular and he will talk 995 00:45:36,960 --> 00:45:35,109 about Ebola so as team footage in is the 996 00:45:40,770 --> 00:45:36,970 title of the new light in the bola out a 997 00:45:43,890 --> 00:45:40,780 bolo in Ebola in so so it's uh so I'm 998 00:45:45,450 --> 00:45:43,900 sure he'll be fantastic we we have we've 999 00:45:50,760 --> 00:45:45,460 seen him talk in these he's a great 1000 00:45:52,829 --> 00:45:50,770 speaker unfortunately we have not as ice 1001 00:45:54,720 --> 00:45:52,839 as we record this I we've not yet made 1002 00:45:59,670 --> 00:45:54,730 the the public announcement but Robin 1003 00:46:01,829 --> 00:45:59,680 Williams will not be there Robin has not 1004 00:46:03,660 --> 00:46:01,839 been well and he's undergoing treatment 1005 00:46:05,970 --> 00:46:03,670 and unfortunately will not be able this 1006 00:46:08,099 --> 00:46:05,980 is the the science communicator from the 1007 00:46:10,559 --> 00:46:08,109 ABC radio yes of course not that row but 1008 00:46:13,950 --> 00:46:10,569 not the part it's the one who after the 1009 00:46:16,710 --> 00:46:13,960 other robin williams died started the 1010 00:46:21,539 --> 00:46:16,720 next radio show by saying this is robin 1011 00:46:23,700 --> 00:46:21,549 williams still here oh yes um so yeah 1012 00:46:26,099 --> 00:46:23,710 but he's not well and last night we 1013 00:46:27,180 --> 00:46:26,109 we've spoken and we've decided to pull 1014 00:46:28,980 --> 00:46:27,190 the plug on it because we were not sure 1015 00:46:30,750 --> 00:46:28,990 that he'd be well yeah well I've these 1016 00:46:33,089 --> 00:46:30,760 things leading up the years there were 1017 00:46:35,430 --> 00:46:33,099 so many gifts coming with so many top 1018 00:46:38,099 --> 00:46:35,440 speakers in national and international 1019 00:46:40,170 --> 00:46:38,109 speakers you going to get yes and but we 1020 00:46:41,910 --> 00:46:40,180 hard little change but we've always had 1021 00:46:43,170 --> 00:46:41,920 the list was always a little our list of 1022 00:46:44,660 --> 00:46:43,180 speakers was always a little bit longer 1023 00:46:47,630 --> 00:46:44,670 than could fit in 1024 00:46:50,359 --> 00:46:47,640 we would actually we've already replaced 1025 00:46:52,549 --> 00:46:50,369 Robin because with Robin we kind of knew 1026 00:46:54,170 --> 00:46:52,559 that he might happen we we've put 1027 00:46:55,430 --> 00:46:54,180 another speaker into the program so 1028 00:46:56,870 --> 00:46:55,440 we're now going back to the original 1029 00:47:00,470 --> 00:46:56,880 schedule is a little bit less congested 1030 00:47:02,990 --> 00:47:00,480 yeah um yeah but it's still a full day 1031 00:47:04,849 --> 00:47:03,000 feel a program it's fantastic now 1032 00:47:07,910 --> 00:47:04,859 tickets are still available of course 1033 00:47:09,829 --> 00:47:07,920 yes I if people go to convention 1034 00:47:11,270 --> 00:47:09,839 skeptics calm down are you all the 1035 00:47:13,910 --> 00:47:11,280 details of the convention everything is 1036 00:47:16,220 --> 00:47:13,920 their tickets ticket sales will continue 1037 00:47:17,599 --> 00:47:16,230 um and in there will actually continue 1038 00:47:21,140 --> 00:47:17,609 through the convention as well people 1039 00:47:23,780 --> 00:47:21,150 walk up to the to their door mm want to 1040 00:47:26,059 --> 00:47:23,790 buy tickets that will be able to we also 1041 00:47:28,640 --> 00:47:26,069 have day tickets available both online 1042 00:47:31,339 --> 00:47:28,650 and will be available yeah at the at the 1043 00:47:33,890 --> 00:47:31,349 convention itself dinner tickets on the 1044 00:47:36,920 --> 00:47:33,900 other hand are we will by the time this 1045 00:47:41,030 --> 00:47:36,930 goes up goes on air here we will have 1046 00:47:42,920 --> 00:47:41,040 closed the sales all sold out of the of 1047 00:47:44,390 --> 00:47:42,930 the dinner tickets we we didn't expect 1048 00:47:46,730 --> 00:47:44,400 such their dinner to be such huge 1049 00:47:48,170 --> 00:47:46,740 success and I will have you know three 1050 00:47:51,049 --> 00:47:48,180 hundred people which is the limit of the 1051 00:47:52,730 --> 00:47:51,059 room basically or I think we'll have 295 1052 00:47:56,059 --> 00:47:52,740 or something this is where we're going 1053 00:47:59,510 --> 00:47:56,069 to close it yeah so it's going to be 1054 00:48:01,400 --> 00:47:59,520 really amazing amazing and we have that 1055 00:48:05,270 --> 00:48:01,410 will have we have well over 400 1056 00:48:06,859 --> 00:48:05,280 delegates at the convention and yeah so 1057 00:48:08,240 --> 00:48:06,869 it's really fantastic we're very happy 1058 00:48:10,130 --> 00:48:08,250 with the way well let's see if we can 1059 00:48:11,539 --> 00:48:10,140 boost that number folks this is it this 1060 00:48:13,880 --> 00:48:11,549 is the last week if you're thinking 1061 00:48:16,910 --> 00:48:13,890 about coming to convention it's just 1062 00:48:19,069 --> 00:48:16,920 going to be so many top speakers so many 1063 00:48:20,750 --> 00:48:19,079 skeptics to meet and mingle with SGU 1064 00:48:22,490 --> 00:48:20,760 just to kick things off of course 1065 00:48:25,039 --> 00:48:22,500 georges seurat the list goes on and on 1066 00:48:27,079 --> 00:48:25,049 and i'm sure it'll be a busy time first 1067 00:48:29,230 --> 00:48:27,089 off yes thank you very much with it 1068 00:48:49,930 --> 00:48:29,240 Thank You Iran see what 1069 00:49:01,440 --> 00:48:49,940 their ears may not spooky action at a 1070 00:49:04,890 --> 00:49:03,329 as you near the groove is happening and 1071 00:49:06,180 --> 00:49:04,900 we're here at the record Creighton Blue 1072 00:49:07,770 --> 00:49:06,190 Point Road which it's on just how are 1073 00:49:11,400 --> 00:49:07,780 you and welcome to Maynard's bookworm 1074 00:49:13,140 --> 00:49:11,410 corner Maynard's bookworm corner I'm 1075 00:49:14,790 --> 00:49:13,150 doing much better men out as you know 1076 00:49:17,310 --> 00:49:14,800 you guest hosted last week of course 1077 00:49:19,140 --> 00:49:17,320 because I couldn't speak I'm on the mend 1078 00:49:20,819 --> 00:49:19,150 and I've just had a nice lunch here at 1079 00:49:22,290 --> 00:49:20,829 the record credit yeah I got this call 1080 00:49:24,329 --> 00:49:22,300 sort of a little bit later on a Sunday 1081 00:49:26,339 --> 00:49:24,339 night of and I thought hello it's a 1082 00:49:28,140 --> 00:49:26,349 booty call on a Sunday night is that who 1083 00:49:30,420 --> 00:49:28,150 I think it is I know two disorders and 1084 00:49:32,819 --> 00:49:30,430 your voice is just about gone it was in 1085 00:49:34,589 --> 00:49:32,829 fact after that it was truly gone and 1086 00:49:36,630 --> 00:49:34,599 it's taken me some days to even get this 1087 00:49:38,280 --> 00:49:36,640 good so I'm glad you were there to fill 1088 00:49:39,930 --> 00:49:38,290 in like I said you were the throat that 1089 00:49:42,420 --> 00:49:39,940 dare not speak its name that's right I 1090 00:49:43,770 --> 00:49:42,430 was but back to my dad's a bookworm 1091 00:49:44,790 --> 00:49:43,780 corner here i thought i mentioned this 1092 00:49:46,230 --> 00:49:44,800 book cause i know there be a few 1093 00:49:49,470 --> 00:49:46,240 listeners the skeptic zone that may be 1094 00:49:52,380 --> 00:49:49,480 interested this it's on profile books 1095 00:49:53,730 --> 00:49:52,390 it's a released on the new scientist 1096 00:49:55,770 --> 00:49:53,740 label and it's called question 1097 00:49:57,720 --> 00:49:55,780 everything it's basically the section in 1098 00:49:59,430 --> 00:49:57,730 the end of the magazine where readers 1099 00:50:00,960 --> 00:49:59,440 writing i asked question that is 1100 00:50:02,550 --> 00:50:00,970 answered by another reader the week 1101 00:50:04,500 --> 00:50:02,560 after are you aware that section of New 1102 00:50:05,790 --> 00:50:04,510 Scientist actually I'm not mean i'm glad 1103 00:50:07,650 --> 00:50:05,800 you brought this to my attention it 1104 00:50:09,720 --> 00:50:07,660 looks like a great book and it's a great 1105 00:50:12,000 --> 00:50:09,730 book to kick off the new segment maybe 1106 00:50:13,770 --> 00:50:12,010 the semi regular segment from Maynard's 1107 00:50:16,319 --> 00:50:13,780 book corner here well only read two 1108 00:50:18,210 --> 00:50:16,329 books an American Psycho and this one 1109 00:50:19,380 --> 00:50:18,220 that's it ice and you haven't even 1110 00:50:20,819 --> 00:50:19,390 finished this one I haven't even 1111 00:50:22,650 --> 00:50:20,829 finished this one but look there's many 1112 00:50:23,880 --> 00:50:22,660 sections we've got in here and I thought 1113 00:50:25,260 --> 00:50:23,890 I'm going to go straight for the alcohol 1114 00:50:28,710 --> 00:50:25,270 section interesting question here from 1115 00:50:29,670 --> 00:50:28,720 Frank Arnhem of the amps of Amsterdam in 1116 00:50:31,500 --> 00:50:29,680 the Netherlands I'm just wondering if 1117 00:50:33,180 --> 00:50:31,510 Arnhem is actually a place so maybe 1118 00:50:34,770 --> 00:50:33,190 they've got the mixed up anyways Frank 1119 00:50:36,630 --> 00:50:34,780 Arnhem so he's named after the place 1120 00:50:39,120 --> 00:50:36,640 anyway Frank Arnhem asked us a question 1121 00:50:40,859 --> 00:50:39,130 about absence he writes absence was 1122 00:50:42,510 --> 00:50:40,869 supposed to have hallucinogenic effects 1123 00:50:44,430 --> 00:50:42,520 due to the presence of extracts of the 1124 00:50:46,170 --> 00:50:44,440 wormwood plant and has been banned in 1125 00:50:48,750 --> 00:50:46,180 some countries at various times does 1126 00:50:50,190 --> 00:50:48,760 this worm would affect really exist of 1127 00:50:51,990 --> 00:50:50,200 course I was drawn to this question and 1128 00:50:54,089 --> 00:50:52,000 look there's a couple of pages of 1129 00:50:56,609 --> 00:50:54,099 answers but I think the best one comes 1130 00:50:58,440 --> 00:50:56,619 from who wrote this one anthony david of 1131 00:51:00,089 --> 00:50:58,450 London in the UK and he wrote the 1132 00:51:02,250 --> 00:51:00,099 history of absence is so fraught with 1133 00:51:04,109 --> 00:51:02,260 urban legend and conflicting interests 1134 00:51:06,480 --> 00:51:04,119 there's no categorical answer the 1135 00:51:08,620 --> 00:51:06,490 question can be trusted Richard it 1136 00:51:10,900 --> 00:51:08,630 sounds like a good answer to me I mean 1137 00:51:12,400 --> 00:51:10,910 Sam I had absence I don't really 1138 00:51:14,800 --> 00:51:12,410 remember what the question was to begin 1139 00:51:17,830 --> 00:51:14,810 with it's an interesting drink it's the 1140 00:51:19,240 --> 00:51:17,840 it's usually served best over ice while 1141 00:51:20,590 --> 00:51:19,250 watching something you shouldn't on the 1142 00:51:22,330 --> 00:51:20,600 television I think you're right I think 1143 00:51:23,980 --> 00:51:22,340 I enjoyed it I seem to remember I 1144 00:51:26,560 --> 00:51:23,990 enjoyed it but it was a long time ago 1145 00:51:27,850 --> 00:51:26,570 hmm well so that's a have a look at that 1146 00:51:29,080 --> 00:51:27,860 book it's got lots of answers to 1147 00:51:30,550 --> 00:51:29,090 questions that you might not have 1148 00:51:32,260 --> 00:51:30,560 thought of all you know the answer to 1149 00:51:33,910 --> 00:51:32,270 but there's one about atomic mushrooms 1150 00:51:35,680 --> 00:51:33,920 there this summer our high school 1151 00:51:37,180 --> 00:51:35,690 visited the museum's at Hiroshima about 1152 00:51:38,830 --> 00:51:37,190 the American attack on Japan with the 1153 00:51:40,330 --> 00:51:38,840 atomic bomb we heard stories from 1154 00:51:42,460 --> 00:51:40,340 survivors and sore pictures of the 1155 00:51:44,200 --> 00:51:42,470 destruction I wonder why the nuclear 1156 00:51:47,590 --> 00:51:44,210 bomb always makes a mushroom-shaped 1157 00:51:50,920 --> 00:51:47,600 cloud now that's a physics question that 1158 00:51:52,960 --> 00:51:50,930 one well I've never seen one of course 1159 00:51:55,810 --> 00:51:52,970 but I've seen plenty of historical the 1160 00:51:59,140 --> 00:51:55,820 archival footage of mushroom cloud see 1161 00:52:00,580 --> 00:51:59,150 any large large for anything's going to 1162 00:52:01,930 --> 00:52:00,590 make a mushroom cloud because it gets 1163 00:52:04,060 --> 00:52:01,940 sucked up and eventually it gets to the 1164 00:52:06,010 --> 00:52:04,070 top and billows out once it's outside 1165 00:52:07,570 --> 00:52:06,020 the vortex it's something I don't give 1166 00:52:09,610 --> 00:52:07,580 much thought to but I guess you're right 1167 00:52:10,510 --> 00:52:09,620 yeah so so have a look to that that's 1168 00:52:12,370 --> 00:52:10,520 and there's all sorts of questions 1169 00:52:13,960 --> 00:52:12,380 that's question everything i think 1170 00:52:15,700 --> 00:52:13,970 that's available through allen & unwin 1171 00:52:18,160 --> 00:52:15,710 in australia and it's originally 1172 00:52:19,600 --> 00:52:18,170 published on profile books thank you may 1173 00:52:22,750 --> 00:52:19,610 not that was an excellent little review 1174 00:52:24,910 --> 00:52:22,760 act it looks like a great book it says 1175 00:52:27,160 --> 00:52:24,920 best-selling New Scientist series over 2 1176 00:52:28,900 --> 00:52:27,170 million copies sold yeah what's a pretty 1177 00:52:31,510 --> 00:52:28,910 popular section in the back of poppers 1178 00:52:33,490 --> 00:52:31,520 of New Scientist I think while we're 1179 00:52:34,750 --> 00:52:33,500 here hitting the record crate in glee 1180 00:52:36,850 --> 00:52:34,760 but if you are dropping into the record 1181 00:52:38,350 --> 00:52:36,860 crating bleed it's just opposite bad 1182 00:52:40,000 --> 00:52:38,360 manners cafe in Blue Point Road in 1183 00:52:41,580 --> 00:52:40,010 Sydney Seiler to uncle Neville who's 1184 00:52:44,260 --> 00:52:41,590 hanging out the back there it's all 1185 00:52:46,690 --> 00:52:44,270 original vinyl it's actually a cafe but 1186 00:52:48,250 --> 00:52:46,700 it sells vinyl and on the wall I've 1187 00:52:50,320 --> 00:52:48,260 covered with it yeah yeah well look I 1188 00:52:52,180 --> 00:52:50,330 can seize just some artists that I'm a 1189 00:52:54,610 --> 00:52:52,190 fan of theirs Elvis Costello over there 1190 00:52:56,620 --> 00:52:54,620 the sugar cubes Jackie Wilson is even a 1191 00:52:59,020 --> 00:52:56,630 cloud 2 album a sting album that's one 1192 00:53:00,490 --> 00:52:59,030 for Georgia up there behind us we've got 1193 00:53:02,380 --> 00:53:00,500 some soundtrack with some rare 1194 00:53:05,080 --> 00:53:02,390 soundtrack stuff I don't know if anyone 1195 00:53:07,090 --> 00:53:05,090 has ever seen the movie starring David 1196 00:53:08,890 --> 00:53:07,100 Carradine called bound for glory but 1197 00:53:11,140 --> 00:53:08,900 they've got the vinyl soundtrack to it 1198 00:53:14,860 --> 00:53:11,150 as well as right next to it zulu dawn 1199 00:53:16,900 --> 00:53:14,870 and the Rolling Stones and Frank Zappa's 1200 00:53:18,460 --> 00:53:16,910 on the wall here Oh even about a 1201 00:53:19,870 --> 00:53:18,470 collection it look and love up there 1202 00:53:22,690 --> 00:53:19,880 there's an Australian artists we've got 1203 00:53:26,440 --> 00:53:22,700 Billy field hunters and collectors and a 1204 00:53:29,890 --> 00:53:26,450 big pig Billy Billy field whatever 1205 00:53:32,980 --> 00:53:29,900 happened to him usually only recording 1206 00:53:35,580 --> 00:53:32,990 studios and yeah for many years and and 1207 00:53:37,870 --> 00:53:35,590 he was quite well done because of that 1208 00:53:39,250 --> 00:53:37,880 when I was younger and he was on 1209 00:53:41,410 --> 00:53:39,260 countdown we thought he was really great 1210 00:53:42,700 --> 00:53:41,420 he had a few hits yeah yeah and the 1211 00:53:44,470 --> 00:53:42,710 gutter that the guy from the Whitlam 1212 00:53:46,960 --> 00:53:44,480 discovered Whitlam discovered one of his 1213 00:53:48,400 --> 00:53:46,970 songs called I wasn't in love with you I 1214 00:53:50,020 --> 00:53:48,410 remember that song very well that was a 1215 00:53:51,490 --> 00:53:50,030 huge hit for Billy fields yeah yeah yeah 1216 00:53:53,530 --> 00:53:51,500 not so big with the guy from The 1217 00:53:55,420 --> 00:53:53,540 Woodlands so we're gonna go for a bit of 1218 00:53:57,430 --> 00:53:55,430 a wonder ones who've got here that I've 1219 00:53:58,930 --> 00:53:57,440 got my Irish in you might have noticed I 1220 00:54:01,270 --> 00:53:58,940 went over there earlier and discreetly 1221 00:54:03,640 --> 00:54:01,280 have a look at the piece of vinyl yeah 1222 00:54:05,470 --> 00:54:03,650 on the wall opposite ously all the 1223 00:54:06,820 --> 00:54:05,480 record been xanax it was in a crate and 1224 00:54:09,130 --> 00:54:06,830 it's actually at a very reasonable price 1225 00:54:11,800 --> 00:54:09,140 and it's a night name yeah record crate 1226 00:54:15,250 --> 00:54:11,810 luck to the crates yeah it's a 1987 1227 00:54:17,200 --> 00:54:15,260 house compilation released it's an 1228 00:54:18,790 --> 00:54:17,210 import record it wasn't pressed in 1229 00:54:21,910 --> 00:54:18,800 Australia and it came in at the time 1230 00:54:23,440 --> 00:54:21,920 just as pump up the volume was coming in 1231 00:54:24,760 --> 00:54:23,450 as an input pump up the volume hadn't 1232 00:54:26,410 --> 00:54:24,770 been released as a single here in 1233 00:54:28,120 --> 00:54:26,420 Australia and I remember getting that 1234 00:54:30,430 --> 00:54:28,130 and it was very influential on me I 1235 00:54:31,960 --> 00:54:30,440 still have the copy but I like that 1236 00:54:35,380 --> 00:54:31,970 record so much i'm going to go buy a 1237 00:54:36,850 --> 00:54:35,390 second vinyl copy of it that's that says 1238 00:54:38,350 --> 00:54:36,860 something about you may not i'm not sure 1239 00:54:40,180 --> 00:54:38,360 what but it does say something about was 1240 00:54:41,830 --> 00:54:40,190 I was a huge fan of getting onto the 1241 00:54:43,960 --> 00:54:41,840 accordant of lien dance parties and 1242 00:54:45,580 --> 00:54:43,970 pretty much all of the songs that are 1243 00:54:46,840 --> 00:54:45,590 featured on that piece of vinyl were 1244 00:54:48,580 --> 00:54:46,850 played at the Horde intervene dance 1245 00:54:49,720 --> 00:54:48,590 parties and they hold very special 1246 00:54:51,490 --> 00:54:49,730 memories for me and I'd like to put a 1247 00:54:52,960 --> 00:54:51,500 call out to of course i'll be doing one 1248 00:54:54,520 --> 00:54:52,970 of my highly controversial interviews 1249 00:54:56,770 --> 00:54:54,530 with Georgia rubbed while he's here and 1250 00:54:58,630 --> 00:54:56,780 if anyone has any questions for George 1251 00:54:59,860 --> 00:54:58,640 I'm going to be asking him a lot of 1252 00:55:01,540 --> 00:54:59,870 questions particularly about the shirts 1253 00:55:03,070 --> 00:55:01,550 he wears all sorts of questions are 1254 00:55:04,480 --> 00:55:03,080 going to be coming his way we're going 1255 00:55:05,740 --> 00:55:04,490 to be really pinning him down when he 1256 00:55:08,170 --> 00:55:05,750 gets in this country he's going to have 1257 00:55:09,790 --> 00:55:08,180 one hour of power with me are you going 1258 00:55:11,980 --> 00:55:09,800 to shirtfront him 1259 00:55:14,860 --> 00:55:11,990 that's one for our Australian listeners 1260 00:55:16,600 --> 00:55:14,870 there I'm certainly gonna kick him in 1261 00:55:20,350 --> 00:55:16,610 the boot give a bit of a Putin that's 1262 00:55:21,850 --> 00:55:20,360 for sure okay we're here at panicked 1263 00:55:23,470 --> 00:55:21,860 markets at the moment and which and I've 1264 00:55:25,870 --> 00:55:23,480 been wandering through and who we got 1265 00:55:27,400 --> 00:55:25,880 here Joe Thompson pleased to meet you 1266 00:55:29,200 --> 00:55:27,410 Joe and I've been wandering past and I 1267 00:55:31,960 --> 00:55:29,210 see a lovely selection of crystals 1268 00:55:33,310 --> 00:55:31,970 there's a faint smell of something nice 1269 00:55:34,810 --> 00:55:33,320 in the air you got something burning 1270 00:55:36,100 --> 00:55:34,820 have you yes we've got some incense 1271 00:55:38,800 --> 00:55:36,110 burning at the moment I think it's 1272 00:55:40,810 --> 00:55:38,810 attracts money oh and which is supposed 1273 00:55:43,390 --> 00:55:40,820 to be the scent that does that I'm sorry 1274 00:55:45,040 --> 00:55:43,400 what's the scent that does that um you 1275 00:55:46,840 --> 00:55:45,050 know what I'm not sure the incense 1276 00:55:50,410 --> 00:55:46,850 companies don't tell us what they put in 1277 00:55:52,690 --> 00:55:50,420 there but you know mer is very good for 1278 00:55:54,760 --> 00:55:52,700 attracting money so what's your favorite 1279 00:55:58,390 --> 00:55:54,770 scent of all I'm with you langa langa 1280 00:56:00,430 --> 00:55:58,400 fan because it's quite intense I would 1281 00:56:04,480 --> 00:56:00,440 have to say coconuts because it's 1282 00:56:06,430 --> 00:56:04,490 invigorating and makes me hungry for all 1283 00:56:08,820 --> 00:56:06,440 kinds of wonderful things getting into 1284 00:56:11,820 --> 00:56:08,830 the day yeah and it's tropical and 1285 00:56:13,720 --> 00:56:11,830 relaxing and all that kind of stuff so 1286 00:56:16,210 --> 00:56:13,730 looking around here you've got a lovely 1287 00:56:18,520 --> 00:56:16,220 selection of crystals and opals and 1288 00:56:20,620 --> 00:56:18,530 polished stones lots of books that can 1289 00:56:22,570 --> 00:56:20,630 help people what's kind of moving at the 1290 00:56:24,940 --> 00:56:22,580 moment what is everyone coming up and 1291 00:56:28,360 --> 00:56:24,950 being interested in that's a really good 1292 00:56:31,210 --> 00:56:28,370 question it ranges all the time we'll 1293 00:56:32,770 --> 00:56:31,220 get a run on certain things at the 1294 00:56:35,230 --> 00:56:32,780 moment the tumble stones are quite 1295 00:56:38,020 --> 00:56:35,240 popular and it just ranges from you know 1296 00:56:40,210 --> 00:56:38,030 what people want to give most basically 1297 00:56:41,500 --> 00:56:40,220 is gift ideas that people are wanting 1298 00:56:43,600 --> 00:56:41,510 it's like we're getting to Christmas 1299 00:56:45,040 --> 00:56:43,610 what's a tumble stone something that's 1300 00:56:47,590 --> 00:56:45,050 been tumbled in a river or something or 1301 00:56:49,540 --> 00:56:47,600 it's actually a crystal a chunk a 1302 00:56:52,450 --> 00:56:49,550 natural rock of crystal that's been put 1303 00:56:55,270 --> 00:56:52,460 in a tumbler it's actually like a cement 1304 00:56:57,790 --> 00:56:55,280 mixer or so it just takes off those 1305 00:56:59,410 --> 00:56:57,800 sharp edges and they end up coming very 1306 00:57:01,510 --> 00:56:59,420 smooth you have to tumble them for a 1307 00:57:03,040 --> 00:57:01,520 very long time to get them smooth but 1308 00:57:04,810 --> 00:57:03,050 you can carry them in your pocket so 1309 00:57:07,000 --> 00:57:04,820 they're quite easy to carry on you 1310 00:57:09,070 --> 00:57:07,010 without hurting you or cutting you they 1311 00:57:10,240 --> 00:57:09,080 look lovely I know spit certain crystals 1312 00:57:12,550 --> 00:57:10,250 are supposed to have certain qualities 1313 00:57:14,650 --> 00:57:12,560 do certain tumble stones have certain 1314 00:57:16,390 --> 00:57:14,660 qualities like they'll attract or reject 1315 00:57:18,690 --> 00:57:16,400 something yes definitely that's 1316 00:57:20,270 --> 00:57:18,700 definitely the case so you're different 1317 00:57:23,090 --> 00:57:20,280 crystals will 1318 00:57:24,890 --> 00:57:23,100 have color therapy properties so people 1319 00:57:27,460 --> 00:57:24,900 will be attracted to certain colors like 1320 00:57:30,380 --> 00:57:27,470 boys like blue and girls like pink 1321 00:57:33,200 --> 00:57:30,390 because blue is protective and pink is 1322 00:57:35,270 --> 00:57:33,210 all about love so we're naturally drawn 1323 00:57:37,520 --> 00:57:35,280 to certain things so all of your 1324 00:57:41,000 --> 00:57:37,530 crystals will have the color therapy the 1325 00:57:43,340 --> 00:57:41,010 way the geometric shapes are created by 1326 00:57:46,850 --> 00:57:43,350 nature so how they naturally grown in 1327 00:57:48,440 --> 00:57:46,860 nature and all that kind of stuff so I 1328 00:57:50,660 --> 00:57:48,450 see you've got one there that is a bit 1329 00:57:52,310 --> 00:57:50,670 of an amber color and it's almost shaped 1330 00:57:54,260 --> 00:57:52,320 a bit like a hard is that deliberate or 1331 00:57:56,420 --> 00:57:54,270 not yeah so that's been carved into a 1332 00:57:58,870 --> 00:57:56,430 heart shape so again they're they're 1333 00:58:00,980 --> 00:57:58,880 beautiful gift ideas for people 1334 00:58:02,570 --> 00:58:00,990 valentine's day or just when you're 1335 00:58:04,520 --> 00:58:02,580 thinking of somebody or a friend that 1336 00:58:06,380 --> 00:58:04,530 you love then you can get the crystals 1337 00:58:08,480 --> 00:58:06,390 in lots of different carvings and shapes 1338 00:58:10,550 --> 00:58:08,490 and stuff like that so the hearts you 1339 00:58:12,680 --> 00:58:10,560 know I mean friendship and love and 1340 00:58:13,880 --> 00:58:12,690 kindness so you've got some figurines up 1341 00:58:16,010 --> 00:58:13,890 there I've had friends that have really 1342 00:58:17,360 --> 00:58:16,020 been into treasure dragons it looks like 1343 00:58:18,590 --> 00:58:17,370 you might have a few up there what sort 1344 00:58:20,720 --> 00:58:18,600 of figurines of anything in particular 1345 00:58:23,720 --> 00:58:20,730 people want this time of year the boys 1346 00:58:27,490 --> 00:58:23,730 always love dragons the boys are always 1347 00:58:30,860 --> 00:58:27,500 into that mythical firefighting 1348 00:58:32,810 --> 00:58:30,870 protective type energy the warrior-type 1349 00:58:34,550 --> 00:58:32,820 energy so the boys love the drag and 1350 00:58:37,910 --> 00:58:34,560 with the wishing fairies necessarily be 1351 00:58:40,220 --> 00:58:37,920 a younger girl yep the girls the little 1352 00:58:43,580 --> 00:58:40,230 girls in particular they love to create 1353 00:58:46,730 --> 00:58:43,590 wishes so the fairy dust where they 1354 00:58:49,790 --> 00:58:46,740 could actually make some magic of their 1355 00:58:53,630 --> 00:58:49,800 own to happen so they love to do you 1356 00:58:55,640 --> 00:58:53,640 know some did you get the fair fair 1357 00:58:57,380 --> 00:58:55,650 dinkum practicing we can see that come 1358 00:59:00,170 --> 00:58:57,390 and get some of their supplies on people 1359 00:59:01,490 --> 00:59:00,180 and and so they have a very different 1360 00:59:04,910 --> 00:59:01,500 purpose for what they're looking for 1361 00:59:07,970 --> 00:59:04,920 they're practicing a certain way they're 1362 00:59:08,880 --> 00:59:07,980 wanting natural products they're wanting 1363 00:59:12,580 --> 00:59:08,890 things that are 1364 00:59:14,500 --> 00:59:12,590 very ritualistic and and part of nature 1365 00:59:16,480 --> 00:59:14,510 because they're they're interested in 1366 00:59:18,940 --> 00:59:16,490 the cycles of nature would be an example 1367 00:59:22,900 --> 00:59:18,950 of one of those products we've got some 1368 00:59:25,540 --> 00:59:22,910 Wiccan books sir I'll weekend canned 1369 00:59:28,300 --> 00:59:25,550 also very popular because when you're 1370 00:59:31,930 --> 00:59:28,310 doing a ritual it's about creating a 1371 00:59:35,050 --> 00:59:31,940 pattern of events where you can increase 1372 00:59:38,320 --> 00:59:35,060 the intention or the power of what you 1373 00:59:40,720 --> 00:59:38,330 wanting to manifest so the more things 1374 00:59:42,430 --> 00:59:40,730 that you do such as lighting a candle or 1375 00:59:46,260 --> 00:59:42,440 lighting and incense the more intricate 1376 00:59:49,540 --> 00:59:46,270 the more detailed that you get with your 1377 00:59:51,520 --> 00:59:49,550 practice the more powerful it becomes 1378 00:59:53,980 --> 00:59:51,530 because your intent becomes more 1379 00:59:56,290 --> 00:59:53,990 powerful I'm just wondering if also 1380 00:59:58,030 --> 00:59:56,300 psychologically going through a ritual 1381 01:00:00,670 --> 00:59:58,040 that had a number of steps has its own 1382 01:00:02,140 --> 01:00:00,680 value as well that's exactly right 1383 01:00:05,080 --> 01:00:02,150 that's the whole purpose is it 1384 01:00:06,760 --> 01:00:05,090 definitely yeah so even if you if it 1385 01:00:08,170 --> 01:00:06,770 doesn't affect an outcome just you going 1386 01:00:09,940 --> 01:00:08,180 through that can make you feel better 1387 01:00:12,820 --> 01:00:09,950 like a cleansing process yeah absolutely 1388 01:00:15,040 --> 01:00:12,830 that's exactly right and so what we like 1389 01:00:17,950 --> 01:00:15,050 to do is whatever anyone's belief is 1390 01:00:20,410 --> 01:00:17,960 will support them in that so we don't 1391 01:00:23,980 --> 01:00:20,420 judge what people do or how they do it 1392 01:00:26,560 --> 01:00:23,990 if they are able to get some relief or 1393 01:00:28,840 --> 01:00:26,570 some assistance will help them in that 1394 01:00:30,520 --> 01:00:28,850 path well thank you very much for having 1395 01:00:32,260 --> 01:00:30,530 a chat to us how would we find you here 1396 01:00:33,340 --> 01:00:32,270 in Patty's markets what are you near if 1397 01:00:36,400 --> 01:00:33,350 anyone was coming here to have a bit of 1398 01:00:39,040 --> 01:00:36,410 a look thanks for asking yeah because 1399 01:00:40,810 --> 01:00:39,050 it's on this Richard led me here and I'm 1400 01:00:42,700 --> 01:00:40,820 trying to think how I would tell anyone 1401 01:00:44,410 --> 01:00:42,710 where it was it's a very good question 1402 01:00:48,510 --> 01:00:44,420 because it's really complicated here 1403 01:00:50,980 --> 01:00:48,520 awakening Lotus is located at 688 26 90 1404 01:00:52,049 --> 01:00:50,990 in Patty's markets there are stand 1405 01:00:54,509 --> 01:00:52,059 numbers 1406 01:00:57,839 --> 01:00:54,519 if you're heading towards a fruit and 1407 01:01:00,449 --> 01:00:57,849 veggie section the ladies toilets is 1408 01:01:02,699 --> 01:01:00,459 visible from our stand and you're almost 1409 01:01:04,859 --> 01:01:02,709 diagonally opposite the go nuts stand 1410 01:01:06,539 --> 01:01:04,869 that's it so going nuts a lot of people 1411 01:01:08,009 --> 01:01:06,549 come down here because they're very 1412 01:01:10,079 --> 01:01:08,019 health conscious so if you're walking on 1413 01:01:12,089 --> 01:01:10,089 where you can smell nuts kind of in that 1414 01:01:14,640 --> 01:01:12,099 area yeah sure there's a lot of nut 1415 01:01:17,999 --> 01:01:14,650 shops here but the biggest okay it's the 1416 01:01:19,679 --> 01:01:18,009 biggest one ok so it's his good well 1417 01:01:20,999 --> 01:01:19,689 thank you i hope you have a good day i 1418 01:01:22,739 --> 01:01:21,009 think it's going to be a big Christmas 1419 01:01:25,499 --> 01:01:22,749 for this sort of thing perhaps hopefully 1420 01:01:47,450 --> 01:01:25,509 I hope to help lots of people so yeah 1421 01:01:56,000 --> 01:01:52,670 Oh Richard what a show I'm still a bit 1422 01:01:58,610 --> 01:01:56,010 shaken after that the ghostly experience 1423 01:02:00,590 --> 01:01:58,620 may not yeah if I get a poltergeist out 1424 01:02:04,160 --> 01:02:00,600 about the you're paying to the Catholic 1425 01:02:05,900 --> 01:02:04,170 Church to come back and we still got 1426 01:02:09,980 --> 01:02:05,910 your disembodied voice going on in the 1427 01:02:12,470 --> 01:02:09,990 background the gold the ghost to hear or 1428 01:02:14,030 --> 01:02:12,480 any wood I'm at maynards got a wonderful 1429 01:02:22,310 --> 01:02:14,040 out ladies and gentlemen he really does 1430 01:02:26,810 --> 01:02:22,320 oh it's awesome that's flying cat I 1431 01:02:29,030 --> 01:02:26,820 recognize that sound what a show we've 1432 01:02:30,650 --> 01:02:29,040 all better get out gear together and get 1433 01:02:33,080 --> 01:02:30,660 out our heads straight for the big 1434 01:02:37,250 --> 01:02:33,090 conference yeah absolutely it's ouch 1435 01:02:39,050 --> 01:02:37,260 just our wells this time next week in 1436 01:02:41,600 --> 01:02:39,060 fact this time next week it'll just be 1437 01:02:43,280 --> 01:02:41,610 over anyway it's soon it's a silly 1438 01:02:45,650 --> 01:02:43,290 massive isn't it some people come from 1439 01:02:47,720 --> 01:02:45,660 overseas Oh everywhere and indeed 1440 01:02:49,040 --> 01:02:47,730 tomorrow tomorrow morning I'm going to 1441 01:02:51,200 --> 01:02:49,050 be at sydney airport with my brother 1442 01:02:52,990 --> 01:02:51,210 Jeff we're picking up the skeptics guide 1443 01:02:55,010 --> 01:02:53,000 to the universe in George rub I 1444 01:02:57,830 --> 01:02:55,020 minibuses and we're driving them to 1445 01:03:00,370 --> 01:02:57,840 Canberra wow really yeah so Canberra 1446 01:03:02,540 --> 01:03:00,380 people look out SGU and Georgia rub and 1447 01:03:04,940 --> 01:03:02,550 the Saunders brothers are on their way 1448 01:03:06,440 --> 01:03:04,950 haha that's gotta be cool yeah and if 1449 01:03:08,030 --> 01:03:06,450 you see me at the conference and you 1450 01:03:11,180 --> 01:03:08,040 don't come up and be interviewed by me 1451 01:03:14,510 --> 01:03:11,190 shame on you that's right yes give main 1452 01:03:21,680 --> 01:03:14,520 are all your agendas you need more 1453 01:03:23,810 --> 01:03:21,690 agenda tonight 318 over and over and out 1454 01:03:25,940 --> 01:03:23,820 and then we will go into 319 next week 1455 01:03:27,980 --> 01:03:25,950 and this keeps cursing keeps around yeah 1456 01:03:30,470 --> 01:03:27,990 continuum next year it'll be seven years 1457 01:03:31,700 --> 01:03:30,480 and then really I know I don't think 1458 01:03:34,370 --> 01:03:31,710 people have grown up and had whole 1459 01:03:37,310 --> 01:03:34,380 lifetimes you know the course of the 1460 01:03:39,740 --> 01:03:37,320 skeptic zone I haven't well in parcels 1461 01:03:41,090 --> 01:03:39,750 right or was ever if anyone who's seen 1462 01:03:43,220 --> 01:03:41,100 the movie interstellar will know about 1463 01:03:44,550 --> 01:03:43,230 all the relativity and people aging at 1464 01:03:46,560 --> 01:03:44,560 different rates 1465 01:03:50,490 --> 01:03:46,570 that's what you liked about three hours 1466 01:03:52,380 --> 01:03:50,500 if you go see that movie no it's true I 1467 01:03:55,850 --> 01:03:52,390 went in and when I came out I was three 1468 01:03:58,650 --> 01:03:55,860 I was older could explain that skipped 1469 01:04:00,210 --> 01:03:58,660 you freaking me out anyway may not 1470 01:04:02,580 --> 01:04:00,220 thanks for dropping by Stefan good to 1471 01:04:04,500 --> 01:04:02,590 see you again and until next week this 1472 01:04:06,300 --> 01:04:04,510 has been your skeptics guide no I don't 1473 01:04:09,600 --> 01:04:06,310 know that's wrong and apples next time 1474 01:04:12,630 --> 01:04:09,610 just Richard Saunders signing off from 1475 01:04:19,410 --> 01:04:12,640 Sydney Australia the skeptic zone it's 1476 01:04:23,630 --> 01:04:19,420 the skeptic zone you've been listening 1477 01:04:28,320 --> 01:04:23,640 to the skeptic zone visit our website at 1478 01:04:39,920 --> 01:04:28,330 www skeptics on TV for comments contacts 1479 01:04:49,050 --> 01:04:46,020 hey this one is awesome okay straight 1480 01:04:57,300 --> 01:04:49,060 face I can read it scientists will 1481 01:05:02,460 --> 01:04:57,310 develop and believe this okay mmm I'm